E35 | Peter Twist: From the NHL to the Mountains

Welcome to the team behind the team podcast. I am your host Donnie maid. This is the monthly show focused on building conversations around the team based model approach to ethic, performance, strength, and conditioning, sports medicine, sports science, mental health, and wellness and sports nutrition.

Hello, and welcome back to the team behind the team podcast. I’m your host, Donnie ma. And we are well into the summer here in Austin. Getting close to fall football is right around the corner. You can kind of fill a buzz coach, Joe, how are you doing this summer? How’s things in your world.

We’re doing great.

Uh, a little bit of side news, the wife and I just signed for a new house. So we’re, we’re super excited about that. Uh, Austin’s a hot city to live in, but I’m more excited about today’s guest. Uh, coach Peter twist from, uh, straight from Vancouver up north. Uh, he’s been a guy that I followed since I was just a kid as an athlete.

And then through the years, as I got into stream, the conditioning followed him as a coach. So, um, I’m extremely excited to have him on today. So I’m, I’m doing really good today.

Good stuff. Excited to have coach Peter twist on coach twist. You doing good now’s things in Canada.

I do fantastic things are great up here, EV every day’s a great day difficult days or excellent days, you know, to receive this day.

Right. And get to show up our, our best we can into it, uh, love every day. So, um, we’re just, we’re just happy to be along your board or where we can tuck in and be your younger brother and keep safe here.

I’m curious before you introduce him, Joe, what is the hottest it gets where you live compared to Texas.

What are you? What’s your hottest temperature in Canada?

Oh, you’re and you’re at Fahrenheit there, right? What’s what’s your hottest that it gets Joe. We’ve been

1 0 7 this week. Yeah. Well

the weekend it got up about 1 0 7.

Yeah. We’re uh, we’re we’re typically like, we’d, we’d be pushing sometimes, maybe 90 in there.

Um, but you know, I, I’ve got, I’ve got true Canadian skin, so I’m, I’m not sure how it can, how long I can last above a hundred. when I go into an air conditioned weight room and sweat a lot, we can get that done

stuff. Well, well, good. Appreciate it, coach. Go ahead, Joe. You can do a little, little background on coach twist for the, for the

listeners.

All right. So I gotta, I gotta take a deep breath here. This is a good long bio. So everyone sit tight for a second. Uh, coach twist has been at it for a few years now. So coach Peter twist is from the small city of PI bro Ontario at a younger age, he was drawn to the potential of becoming a physi physical education teacher.

Uh, he instead progressed to achieve his master in coaching science at the fame university of British Columbia. Since that time he graduated on to work as a sport scientist conducting brain brain body research coached for 11 years in the national hockey league with the Vancouver. Ks was selected by under armor in IMG as their global education partner as well, and as well by the China Olympic committee to help modernize how their summer and winter national teams train in rehab in preparation for the Olympic games.

Overall coach twist has worked with over 700 professional athletes published over former papers, authored 10 books, 19 DVDs on athletic development. Two major honors include NCA’s 1998 presence award and the can fit pro 2003 specialty presenter of the year award coach twist. Be ready to go. How you doing?

born. Ready, born. Ready is the, uh, swagger answer. But as we know, no, one’s really born ready. We train to get ready and we grow and prepare. So I, I am ready and, uh, always ready to get a little bit better. So grateful to join both of you coaches here today.

Yeah. So down here at Texas I’m, I’m like the resident hockey nerd being from Detroit, Michigan.

And so I’m, I’m gonna jump right into it. Um, I gotta ask you, you worked in both the national hockey league and the private sector for a long time, you know, which, which setting do you prefer more? You know, did you enjoy more, prefer more and have you been able to keep your passion in the private sector or is there ever like a desire to, you know, get back with the boys again?

Oh, wow. Well, I can stay right off the bat when, uh, when I had the opportunity to go to university of British Columbia, I did my master’s in coaching science, how you apply the sciences to the art of coaching. And I did, uh, just because I knew I was in an environment where you can learn a lot and benefit, and there’s all kinds of, uh, passionate people around you.

I wasn’t in a hurry to leave. I was playing varsity ice hockey. So definitely wanted to use up all my eligibility as an athlete because, you know, we’re so passionate about playing our sport, but I took, you know, you could do a thesis or a major paper. And I chose to do both because this is my opportunity to grow.

I got my whole life ahead of me. What’s the hurry. And I did a thesis in the physiology and bioenergetics ice hockey, but my, um, or sorry, that was my major paper. My thesis was in the area of team based attitudes. And, you know, how do we predict when we’re choosing someone for a team? Is that person, do they have the propensity to be more socially connected?

Do they have the ability to be task cohesive? So we execute on one game plan together. So that was all team oriented. And so for sure, I love being part of a team. I love being, uh, the best follower within a team because, uh, that’s actually how I choose my future leaders is who follows the most, cuz they’re cognizant of what the leader needs to be done.

Um, being a team mate and being a leader on a team. So I always have appetite to join a team in any setting. Um, as Tom Rey, who I, I think headed up, uh, Canada’s uh, national hockey program, he coached major junior hockey for many years, then stepped into the NHL. He told me once in answering your question.

The NHL, he loves for many reasons. And of course we’re taught as athletes and coaches and people and professionals to aspire, climb, climb that ladder, get higher, get, you know, reach the top. So there’s part of the process and being at the top he enjoy. But if you asked him this question from a pure coaching and player development, he, he far preferred major junior and that age group and bringing those young men along.

But as life aspirations take you, sometimes you end up somewhere where kind of how society defines success. So I’m gonna answer the question more for the viewers and encourage them just to, uh, define success on their terms that could be working with 10 year olds in their town that could be in the NFL doesn’t matter.

Right? It’s what, uh, what you value, where you get your fulfillment and what success to you.

Yeah. And it always seems like too, there’s some kind of, um, there’s some kind of benefit too, just maybe some of the lower levels, like say collegiate, for instance, you know, a lot of these teams, they it’s part of their schedule to come in here, whether rather they like it or not.

Whereas if you get someone like a, uh, I’ll just use a Detroit example Lindstrom in his later years, I mean, the, the decision was probably up to him. Sure. And by then he knew his body. So then, you know, maybe some days you get to work with him some days you don’t. And so I think from what I’ve heard around, you know, a lot of guys prefer the college setting cuz no matter what, you get to work with the boys and, and you get to bring him in.

So I think, I think that’s always, probably play played a role too,

you know? Right. Yeah. I understand.

I had a quick question. Uh, you, you sparked my interest. Um, you were talking about your, your thesis. And so I worked with, uh, a team sport as well. Women’s volleyball here and I’ve worked with different team sports over the years.

From your research and just from your experience, like how, how do you kind of tell if somebody has a great aptitude to be good on a team and not be good? Like, what do you guys, how did you kind of kind of rate or score that? Or how did you kind of evaluate that? I’d be interested to hear that. Yeah.

And because, uh, I had the exact same question as you, and then I looked at co uh, team cohesion research.

And at the time they were really measuring things after the, after the fact, you know, did your volleyball team, if they won a championship, if you won five matches in a row, if you’re having a losing season, then there, the, the research is measuring your players. And they’re, they’re looking at sort of how, how are, how is that team affected from the experiences you’ve recently had?

Where I was more, uh, I love how your mind was thinking there right away. Could, could we predict. Could we use that as a selection tool? So my thesis was actually the development of a valid and reliable psychometric, uh, analysis tool, uh, which ends up being a questionnaire. You know, if a layman looks at it, it looks like a simple questionnaire, but to actually validate and substantiate, especially a, a social, psychological construct, it’s not like a weight we can pick up in the weight room.

We know how many pounds that is, and we know its. But to actually validate that we’re measuring something by these questions, that’s a tangible thing, uh, which, which I refer to as social and task cohesion. So I did get that validated and that, that would be an effective tool from a predictive nature. One thing out of, you know, all of the many things a coach uses with their subjective eye and data and science to quantify.

Um, but my, an my answer is that that was the process of that. There, there is no way. So we, we aspire to develop a valid, um, measuring instrument to do that.

That’s cool. Yeah. I mean, I think that’s, you know, to your point, it’s that, it’s you really, the only way you can kind of see it is as the season kind of goes along, um, when you see these different, you know, whether it’s clicks or divisions on the team and it kind of ends up.

You know, negatively impacting you. I know the, it just feels like the teams that we’ve had in the past, there seems to be more of a chemistry, a cohesion. It’s not perfect for sure, but there’s, there’s just something there that helps elevate their play onto the, the, the, the court. So it’s always, always interesting to talk about that.

So good stuff.

Yeah. And, and I’ll a quick, quick, and inject to that, like more of a applied, practical nature. What I would do as a coach or very early, or when there’s still athletes to select from, maybe you’ve got your, you know, you’ve got your cuts down, but you’ve still got a few folks there, or you’re just trying to PRI you know, organize and rate your roster on many different things that, that affect the long term, uh, health of the team.

Not just that player’s performance on the Fort today. I would set up, I’m a real observation of behavior. So, you know, say we were even right at the start, a team orientation meeting, and there’s a, a team meeting and players are coming in and I purposely, I don’t, we might have chairs in the weight room. I purposely don’t have the chairs set up.

They’re off to the side. I watch who shows up early, who shows up without asking and grabs chairs and starts setting them up. Who asks me if anything can be done? You know, who’s floating in the back, the last to lift a finger. And, uh, so there’s, that’s one example out of hundreds, but from a behavioral standpoint, we can start to watch, um, Without a lot of, lot of information feedback later on where you say you might see polices and add different attitudes.

And so on. I, I look at specific behaviors very early and try and set the stage for that in everything we do that that’s a, that’s a third eye I’m watching for things there.

That’s solid. That’s so good. Good, good recommendations for sure.

Yeah. Great. Thank you.

Mm-hmm . Yeah. And I mean, so what I was gonna get into next is, you know, how was your experience with the Vancouver connects?

And we’ll kind of stay a little on topic too with it, you know, what kind of behavior patterns did you see with them when you worked with them? And then, you know, we can even get into some of your biggest lessons working NHL, but you know, were you working on that stuff is as far back as when you started with the.

Oh, yeah, you bet. Coach. And I had a great, my timing was a great opportunity because strength and conditioning was new for the NHL. I think, I think, you know, at the it’s changed so fast at the time, of course, in, uh, USA college strength and conditioning was very common in the NFL. That was well set up. Lot.

Lot of the other major league teams didn’t have that. And you know, the thing is with pro sport, you know, they kind of modernize, but then buy into change is slow. Even amongst the people that hire you. So , you know, they might position something cuz they know it’s important, but they don’t really want it fully.

They’re not ready to have a fully implemented, you know, cuz it’s just so much change. Uh, and, and every sport goes through that. Of course, I got the opportunity to go to China as well, where you’ve got, you know, younger Mo modern coaches trying to push to modernize and. You’ve got guys that are, you know, uh, still a young man, but say 65.

And they, they were coached by a 65 year old when they were 20 and they still sort of have those, those ways with them. Um, I got to go into the NHL when this was new. Uh, there was a really a process and there wasn’t buy-in. And so I’ll tell you right off the bat that like a handful of the coaches saw this or handful of the players saw this as a great asset and advantage.

And it, it was clearly a way to get an advantage, cuz not all players were coming into camp at their very best. And uh, some players did it because they’re good teammates and they had some trust that would help them. Others are good teammates and coachable and they, I don’t think they thought it would help ’em that much, but that’s what the team’s doing.

And, and other guys like this, this was just something we could test them on and use it for punishment and put them in the doghouse and take them outta the line up. Right. So it was more like the college setting except that the players weren’t bought in where like, I, it wasn’t strength and conditioning was not mature enough.

Uh, in professional hockey nor were the teams and the management and coaching staff and players in how they treated. Uh, so I was kind of the bouncer guy. Like I would, I was the hunter I’d go over. We started out. Um, I think we, we were the first team in the NHL to start training after games. And kind of, uh, connecting your other question.

One of the things I learned is I, I stopped believing in peak performance and focusing on peak performance, cuz these guys are playing three, three games a week. You know, it’s not once, once for the Olympics and once for the world championships. So you’re never gonna be at your peak. What’s the peak, what’s the highest we can be at in a sustainable level peak, sustainable perform it’s peak, sustainable high performance.

So the time to work out was after the game. When the guys, they better be warmed up after a game and you know, we’d get our workout done and we’d have another 48 hours, uh, to, to restore and work on minor things before the next game. That’s a huge cultural shift. If you spent your career going out, partying after games or going home to your family at midnight and coach twist is now getting us to work out and you know what?

I was on my own. And I, I would go over and I would hunt guys down in the dressing room and I would drag guys over pretty much if I had to, till the whole team was doing it. And I can say when, you know, when you’re willing to do things, uh, fast forward, 10 years later, we, uh, we traded for a guy. The player came in and, uh, we were working out after the game.

He was a big enforcer guy and he was like, I don’t I’m from Montreal. I don’t, we don’t, we don’t work out there. And I’m so, and so I’m an enforcer. I do whatever I want. And then, so I, my accents are so terrible, but I tried to imitate his accent for fun. I went, I went nose to nose, you know, that statement. I had to step up nose to nose, except my nose is at his chest.

He’s so big. And he had about 50 pounds of muscle on me and he threw guys around on the ice for a living. So, but I stepped in and I just said, well, I don’t know what it’s like there, but you know, this is Vancouver connects and we do things as a team and we’re doing this to get better. And we all feed off of that.

Um, but as far as him getting him compliance and then he didn’t know how to do the workout, there was other team leaders, the captain, the assistant, the social leaders, they stepped in, made sure he worked out that he goes to work out and he’s not on the same training level as the rest of it. So I went to step in and coach him and queue up his technique.

And a couple of the veteran players beat me to it. And so when I started out, it was from nothing and no one was bought in. And by the time I left that program, it, it had momentum. It had a life and the foot, the top players were perpetuating it, valuing it and maintaining the quality, but it takes a bit of grit and, uh, little bit of work to get it there.

Yeah. I was gonna say, I mean, that was, was, you know, you hear a lot of it from, you know, a lot of other hockey guys, like Mike Boyles and everyone in the world and, you know, what are some things you had to do to build that credibility either with management or the team to, to get everyone bought in.

So number, you know, and some, some of the things that work, I always say, it’s like, I’m captain obvious and , this is a captain obvious quote, but, you know, I make sure they know, I I’m, I’ll use, I’ll use two, two types of words.

Like, I’ll speak if I’m gonna speak in that setting. It’s either one just in friendship and might be three things. Actually it’ll be like in friendship and social connection. And I’m just enjoying, speaking with them. Um, number two, it might be for me to learn, I believe there’s 8 billion people in the world.

I firmly believe I can learn something from everyone and all 8 billion people know how to do something. I don’t. So you’re in a world class environment. I I’m observing, I’m asking questions. That could be the second. The third is, if I’m speaking, then if it’s not those first two things, anything I’m saying, I believe will help them improve.

I got their back. I’m here to help each individual improve and the team improve, you know, and if they have a different opinion, we can discuss it. Um, but they can trust I’m if, you know, if I’m not trying to, if I’m not talking about things. That are helping them improve. Then I’m probably listening to someone else and just make sure they have that, that trust and assurance that my words are intended, uh, to elevate them.

Right.

Yeah. I, I gotta ask too well, who, who was probably the best guy on the team back then in the weight room? Who, who like really your, your athlete you leaned on for a little bit of help?

Well, not naturally, uh, right away on any team I’m on. And, and to answer your question back then, right at the start, uh, like I, I actually, I go to the leaders, I go to the captain, the assistant captains, or it’s designated in hockey.

Uh, I also go to who’s ever, if it’s someone else who. No one is the most skilled or has the highest salary. And then I go to who’s ever the social leader, right? Because the social leader, also, it that’s a strong, that could be the strongest leader in the room and, you know, they can, you know, they do the talk around the water cooler using the office analogy.

They’re having beers somewhere. And, uh, they’re either gonna like make your program or break your program. So I know the key, the key roles on the team I have to have on board. Um, so I purposely go to them and if they’re not on board, I find a way to get them on board. Um, so to answer the question, uh, number one, starting out, it was, uh, Trevor Linden, who was captain of.

And he was the one day one. Yes. Yes. Coach twist, you know, love, love it, help him pick up equipment. Being in there early, staying late, working hard, uh, being prepared with ideas on how he can improve what he wants to work on. And I found over the years, it was the leaders who were the most coachable, you know, mark messier, uh, Marcus, Nalin more recently for that program.

Daniel Hendrick Sadine, you know, who I had the honor to help develop from, uh, you know, young boys, into men, into warriors and into leaders. Um, you gotta have those guys on board. I did have one player. Wasn’t wasn’t the leader from a captain standpoint, but he made, uh, he made tons of money and, uh, I tried every motivation method, uh, that I had to get him on board and I, and in enforcing and grabbing him.

And of course I can enforce it and I can get ’em there on the day, but he is not bought in mm-hmm right. Seeing someone in there, working out who cares, they’re not giving their best and they’re not speaking positively about it outside of that hour, let’s say, doesn’t matter, they’re a detractors of the program.

So we’re trying to win a championship and they’re not doing everything in their favor. Well, this, this individual was just said to me and said, look, you know, look, coach twist. I’m I get this. And there’s a lot of players gonna benefit. They go. I don’t really need like endurance and more power and things like that.

They go, I, I don’t even really work hard out there. I’m never gonna carry the puck from what end to the other. Um, I get paid just for being in the right position around the net. You give me the puck, I’m the best equipment in the net. I get paid millions for that. And so then from that pocket, you kind of work backwards, like reverse engineer from your player’s attitude.

Um, rather than judge that, it’s like, how, how do I work with that? And so I convinced him that, yeah, you know what, you, you’re making 5 million a year. Just the way you are. Like you’re fit to go. You’re popping in our highest pool total, but. The team’s not gonna be successful. Like not all guys can get away with that.

Let alone, you don’t know how good you could be, but that, that philosophy wasn’t enticing him. He was happy how good he was now didn’t have the drive and the fire to get better. But what about your, what about your wingers? What about your linemates? What if they were bad? They need to be better. Could they dig out the pocket, feed you more?

Passe? Could you score more goals? What if you’re doing what you’re doing and our team wins a championship. Is it more fun? Does that, you know, result for you? So this guy was motivated for selfish reasons and became a key part of the team workouts, fully committed. Because he was being there to make sure everyone else was working out hard so that he would benefit individually.

That was a unique one. Um, but there was lots of examples like that, uh, working with each player and knowing what makes them tick, you gotta have about 30 different motivation strategies and find the right language that speaks to that player.

Yeah. I got coach. I got one last thing before I turn it over to, uh, to Donny.

So you wrote, you wrote the book, complete conditioning for ice hockey and I mean, back then, There really wasn’t much. And that, and that’s kind of how I was introduced to, to you and strain the conditioning for hockey. I was, I was a young kid. I wasn’t all that good. And I started going to camps and doing dry land outta, outta your book.

But when it came to that stuff, I think there was a wing Reky video out there where it had like different, you know, uh, resistance training techniques. And there was like a few cool videos of fed off racing, beret and everything. And then, uh, who, who you worked with. Uh, and, uh, and then there was your book.

I mean, you know, was it, was it you that pushed to write that book or did someone kind come out and say, Hey, like, you’re one of the few guys working in hockey right now. We need a book and can you write it.

Well at the time, um, I had translated my master’s major paper into a book with a professor Dr. Ted Rhodes physiology, ice hockey.

So, you know, he helped get me into writing. And then though, actually as our career goals were blessed to get invited, to do lots of things. That that book was my initiative. I proposed it, the publisher accepted it, it was needed in hockey. There were books you would be, uh, probably shocked at this knowing I, the game of ice hockey as an anaerobic speed, power quickness, multidirectional sport, uh, one of the many of those, but for ice hockey, there were some books before they were pretty thin and they were mostly on aerobic training, continuous aerobic training.

And then back in that day, um, you know, unless you, you might be doing, uh, power lifting or Olympic lifting, but otherwise all the strength training was muscle isolation, more like, like a health club type setting. So it had lots of room to grow. Uh, the important for your, uh, listeners. I took the initiative to propose that.

And then, you know, are you, are you willing to do whatever it takes? And I had a young family I’m in the NHL, I’m working seven days a week on that schedule, a couple dogs, couple babe at babies in the house, renovating the house. And I spent, I remember I spent three months, uh, every second night I rode and I, you know, my wife would go to sleep.

My kids would get into bed, the babies get into bed and it’d be like, you know, nine or 10 at night and I’d get to work and I’d write till six in the morning. Then I’d go to the rink and show up for work. And always gotta have a good attitude. You gotta have energy, you gotta have your head on a swivel, your eyes open.

And it’s just like, you know, do you have a little bit of grit, little bit of endurance. And are you dev, you know, can you see it as developing resiliency and things like that. But, um, I wasn’t a fast writer at the time because it was my first fully published book. And you, you know, so I was willing to put in the hours and it’s doing things kind of the antithesis of the social media error.

I’m doing things every second night that nobody knows that I’m doing. That’s trying to take me to where I want to go, which is impacting hockey and coaches and players. A lot. A lot of our most important work is very quiet and behind the scenes coach, again,

just looking at. The total body of work you’ve done.

I mean, it’s very, it’s very clear and evident that you have a true passion and a love for what you do. Um, so kind of a bridge off that question, looking at some of the stuff you’ve done. So you kind of touched on it real briefly, right there. We’re in this like only way I know how to call it is like this social media kind of era that we’re in with, you know, fitness, strength, conditioning coaching, what has changed kind of how you do your job now, coach, what’s different with this new kind of, do you do, do you a little bit more strategic, um, do you do more online coaching in person?

Like give us a little peek into maybe how you’ve evolved over the years up to where you are now? Just a little bit of that please.

Uh, AB absolutely. And I think evolve is that’s, that’s an important, um, you know, we stick to, so we stick to things that work there’s things that I do that were in the industry before me.

And that, you know, that are tried and trued and staples and so on. Well, we’re, we’re gonna continue to do those, but, uh, evolving is still important. And what a great opportunity, uh, individually, we don’t always see things as, uh, top professionals that are changing, what we think is for the better. Um, but then that is the reality.

So what’s that mean? So in my world, you know, I love coaching hands on, uh, with a group of athletes. I also love teaching and mentoring coaches to do the same. And so during, uh, in the period suffice to say, um, uh, and just, just mention it for the story in Canada, I’m, Canada’s scientific representative on the, uh, foundation of global community health.

It’s one person from 193 countries. That meets to collaborate on, uh, it best practices for health and mental wellbeing and physical fitness as well. Um, so Canada, during, as we went into the pandemic chose to elect, to use that by closing all my businesses as they did for a while in the states and, you know, really slandered coaching training, and specialized health practitioners as the high risk problem, better to take a thousand people and funnel them into Walmart together than have 10 people training in a gym to build their mindset and immune system and so on.

So. Number one. I, I think in, in our related field, besides working with athletes for sport, we all know the lifelong skills and mindset and hopefully lifelong buy in to sport and being active and in motion for the rest of their life, getting their future families active and so on. So, so, so, so many benefits, uh, coaches and trainers are part of a solution and they’re exactly what society needs more of, but I could see why, you know, wow.

In, in Canada we had, we make tobacco, uh, essential. That was tobacco sales were essential. Um, and I, I personally, I don’t know if you guys do or not, but if you want to get together for a pizza and a few beers, I’m all for that. Um, and even though I enjoy having a few beers, I don’t think alcohol’s essential during a health pandemic, right.

Training, getting in nature, being a fit, eating healthy and so on. Right. So I saw we’re not shutting down sick, the causes of sickness. We’re funneling people to them while we’re closing. Sort of the specialized health and fitness and coaching practitioners. So that just elevated my passion to be part of the solution and find one, the government can screw up, which was, so I shifted along with the technology as you, uh, guided me with the words of all.

Um, I took all our past education and shut it down, which was taught around the world by live master teachers. I’m one by one rewriting to modernize as is 2022 each book. And course, which used to be taught by live teachers. And now they’re all. I have a digital online campus twist university twist, university.com.

Oh wow. And where coaches from anywhere in the world can come on and study at their own. Trying to make it inspirational and personalizing it. It’s like to me, it’s amazing art. It’s the human body and motion is amazing. So we’re making it a premium experience. Um, but if anything happens in the world, um, coaches can still access.

They can get with their peers and get inspired and, and learn. So that’s one way. Um, the other in a, in a, every coach I talk to who’s like in, in the weight room, on the field with their athletes, um, you know, they’re doing what they’re doing. We’re, you know, we’re, we’re all have science knowledge. We have, uh, great art of coaching and methodology, but I think we see social media and it’s, it’s social, media’s mostly entertainment.

There’s some good folks. And I try to give little bites of, uh, of knowledge to help people along. And, but to be really successful on social media, you’re an entertainer, not an educator. And I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong, it’s just different. Right? And so all pro and college coaches that I’ve chatted with some of their time is answering their athletes questions about what they see on social media and making sure they, you know, there’s the, the, the risk that they just keep biting into the latest fat or trend or circus trick that they see on social media.

And so I think coaches, the coaches I speak to, we don’t like that. That’s a reality, but we know it’s important and we need to be aware of what’s on there because our athletes are on there and be, be able to speak to those things. Maybe there’s some things that help them. Most of them, we probably don’t want them to disrupt and interfere with our long term athlete development and annual seasonal plan, but we need to be prepared to have the conversations cuz our athletes are young.

Athletes are heavily influenced.

No, that’s the coach. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard that coined. And he actually like made it click for me, like social media. Really? It truly is. It’s just more entertainment when you look at a lot of the trends right now, and I’m on social media a little bit, not a ton, but I try to stay current, a lot of the, what they call like the tos reels.

It’s the, the attention span is like maybe what, five to six seconds max. And then, I mean, I’ve got four, four, uh, young daughters and I mean, they are scrolling, so you really can’t get much depth of content or education with that kind of thing. So to your point, dude, I I’m, I’m gonna kind of borrow that.

That’s that’s spot on. It’s more, it’s more entertainment. It’s not so much education, so that’s good stuff.

Yeah. And I, I just, uh, coach, I just recommend, you know, if someone. Someone’s on social media, it’s really their choice. Is it just another version of catching their breath and, and chilling out? And they’re just scrolling, not really paying too much attention to anything.

So, you know, a few minutes to that is fine. If that’s 10 hours of their day, it might be a little bit too much. Um, but if that’s the way they want to go, that’s fine. But if there’s someone that actually wants to learn and go and improve, um, and actually be influenced in some way that affects their success and growth, uh, I, I recommend like just follow five people.

You’ll actually like watch their three minute video and, you know, look into it deeper, like really learn their stuff, get the value you need. And after you’ve gotten enough, then maybe you follow five different people, but actually pause. and get, get into what they’re talking to you about and get into it fully and then layer that inside of you.

Right? So, um, in the, in the day of a, a tweet and so on like that, there’s not a lot of folks doing that, but I, I think you can find things mm-hmm um, as one of my daughters said, I have two daughters and of course, um, men and boys are too, and mental wellbeing amongst young boys is challenge, but just women and young girls get a lot of messaging about from media and traditional media and social media now, like they’re not enough and how they’re supposed to show up.

And if they show up that way, uh, then they get judged negatively for it. Like they’re just in a no win, hard to grow their self-esteem by, by through marketing. And so my, my one daughter was pretty savvy at a young age. She just said, you know, if I’m on social media and I’m following someone and it makes me feel poorly about myself, I just unfollow them.

I kind of changed the channel. And so, you know, to really find who serves you and whether you need inspiration right now, I need grit and resiliency right now. I, I just need to waste some time and, you know, veg out for a bit, cuz I’ve been using my brain all day or I I’m a young coach I wanna learn. And uh, so any of those factors find the theme that you’re looking for and just follow those people and get into it.

I highly recommend that young coaches, uh, follow coaches on social media, not who has a million followers because of whatever they’re posting on Instagram, but who were they before? Instagram and more often than not, they weren’t doing anything. So, you know, you mentioned them, uh, uh, Michael Boyle, I think earlier.

And there’s Michael Boyle. Well, He’s he’s been on stage lecturing at conferences because at a conference you actually have to succeed before you have a platform. Instagram, you just have to have the capability to sign up for a free account. If you have the capability to sign up for a free account, then you are now an Instagram influencer coach health leader, whatever you want to call yourself.

And so find someone with real world success. That’s working with real world athletes, then, you know, listen to them and engage with the people who engage, learn from each other.

Good stuff. Um, speaking of content, kinda a little shift on topic here. Yeah. Um, you, do you seem to be doing like a ton of work on faci line training and this, I actually love this topic and would just love to hear, uh, maybe walk us through some of your methodologies and how you, how you feel.

How does the faci line training improve or impact performance, uh, positive or negatively, however, whichever direction you want to go

with it. Hundred percent and all clarified people. Uh, people listening that, um, you know, I, I, I still got a part of me at heart. That’s a, I, I call it in a, in a positive way, but I say a dumb job, you know, I, I I’m the athlete come in and that puts me in a place where I like complex made simple.

And, uh, I’m the captain obvious. I look for obvious things that are like, wow, this stopped me in my track to get curious about, we know the human body, uh, as our human vehicle, that when we ask it to be at its best for expressing athletic action is the most complex machine in the world. It’s the only machine in the world, not fully understood by anyone.

So it begs us to get there’s the opportunity to stay curious. What else is trainable? What characteristics of the function of the body. Could we consider and, uh, you know, if someone’s on their phone or their desktop or their laptop, the human body and brain is about a billion times more complex than the machines you’re using and the programming you’re using for this.

So it’s also so cool to study and the captain obvious part, you know, when I learn, when I did, uh, my first cadaver studies in anatomy, in my undergrad, what the prof anatomy professor did was try to remove the fascia. So we could get outta the way so we could see the muscle more clearly and study the muscle.

And fascia was like some inert substance that was just thrown to the side. And so it wasn’t until later. And when I learned that our fascial system number one, connects our muscles in long lines across multiple joints. So now we have more long, uh, patterns of stability and 10 ity and force absorption and production, but most stood out was that it communicates information with our millions of sensors in our hands, our feet, and then all through our body and our joints that are like sensors to the software of our body, our brain, uh, telling us how is our body moving?

Am I being body checked. Am I being tackled? Am I skiing down mobile? What’s happening in my environment? And it floods millions of pieces of information, every microsecond to our brain to make computations. What, what are the action is to motor responses of the rest of the body? That communication happens at 700 miles per so when I say like, I’m no rocket scientist.

So when I see 700 miles per hour, I’m like, that’s obviously important. Mm-hmm number one. If it wasn’t communicating between the brain, the fashion, the muscle, they’re not communicating, sharing information. If, if, if they’re, if they are doing that, it must be important. If it wasn’t important to our function and ability, it wouldn’t even be there.

But let’s say it’s, it happens at 700 miles per hour. And if it wasn’t that important, it might happen, but at 10 miles per hour, then get around to it. We’ll swap that information around. We’re still clicking around being our best physical performance. It happens at 700 miles per so then I look, okay, why, what is it communicating?

Why is it doing that? And what is that affecting? And if we can understand those characteristics of how the body parts communicate when they’re exercising and playing sports and then find ways to train, uh, the characteristics of that, you know, we’re onto something. This is obviously it’s, I’ll use that word.

It is obviously, uh, important when you see something in the body that happens at the speed of 700 miles per hour. It’s. You know, it’s, it’s essential. So we’re working back from there. I placed a bigger emphasis on appropriate except, and how are we kind of reverse engineering? How are we stimulating the brain and that communication system and the receptors, and then how can we positively affect muscles and fascia from that?

Is there one part or one area of the body that you’re like specifically like really skilled with like shoulder, hip, um, knee, ankle, anything?

I would say I I’m particularly skilled at linking the body in one. So let’s make the muscle groups one. How do we unify them? Okay. How do we, you know, BA balance strength and, and movement, but how do we make from toes?

Let’s say our toes in our feet, through to our fingers, how are we connecting that? Like one long, big, strong body armor? How, how are we connecting? That is one to link the body and sequentially fire, and sum eight, our joint by joint to express it. How can we do that for more skillfulness? So I think I, I would summarize what I like to think is my skill is taking the complex, uh, body and making it simple into the methodology and training systems that are replicable, but really unifying it into one.

You know, the, the muscle group we’re working today is. It’s the human system and we’re gonna link it from feet through our hands. And the more we can do that, I think the more skillful we can be, a lot of that, um, to answer your question also focuses on skill execution. It focuses on, uh, change of direction and 3d movement, 3d strength, 3d power.

Um, so of course we, you know, we do things vertically and linear, uh, linear with track sprinting and, um, uh, Olympic lifting and things like that. And we’re doing our squats, our cleans and our sta and so on. But we, we, we, we move, we coil moved by rotation and then we link our feet to our hands. I try and combine those two things and kind of build out from there.

No, that’s good. I think just the more I do this as a coach and the more you work with the body, I mean, you’re spot on, like, everything is so connected. From your hand all the way down through your head, your shoulders down into your feet. And the one understanding how all those parts kind of interrelated and work together, uh, can make you not only a better mover, but just overall, just a better, uh, human performance, but also just keep you healthier too, you know?

Yeah. Longevity.

Yeah. Yeah. So that’s, that’s a big piece of it. So yeah, that’s, that’s good stuff. Very, uh, very, just deep subject, but intriguing, uh, subject, just changing the way. Uh, we, we view the human body is always critical, so

good stuff. It is, it is. And, um, you know, if someone was brand new to fascial lines, um, just to know that, you know, our fascial tissue runs in long lines from feet to head and cross body and, and diagonal patterns, spiral patterns, but in longer lines, they cross multiple joints.

So, um, it affects how muscles, no mu no muscle works alone, nothing in the body happens in isolation. And, you know, we can start to get more muscles working cooperatively together for stability, uh, for concentric ecentric contractions in sum sequencing, power, sequentially, power, so on, but to visualize it, the training methodology I work backwards from, if I think if you took Tai Chi with yoga in motion, Little bit of body building techniques, you know, time under tension, slow E center contractions with multidirectional sport performance threw that into a crop bot.

You know, you’d come out with exercising for FAS lines training from using it not fashion lines is usually looked at in our industry from a repair and restoration, um, and you know, massage and release and realignment, which is very important. I’m just looking at it exclusively from a performance standpoint.

Okay. And we really end up with the ability, especially for our athletes who are in there, like working at anomaly, uh, levels of power and speed and combativeness and so on and quickness, but also for all of us every year that we age we’re getting softer or stronger. And what are, I’m really intrigued for folks as they age.

What are ways that we can overload the body to build the brain, build more brain cells, build and build, sustain it, build our musculature, um, in ways that translate to movement, not just looking good, like a statute and, uh, that translate to movement without necessarily, uh, always lifting the heaviest load.

We know load works. Let’s go to it, you know, but what’s, what’s appropriate for that human, that person, that adult over the long term are there. There’s, there’s many ways we can overload to stimulate muscle adaptations and growth and so on. I’ll just say, you know, my age, I know too many coaches of my peers that have hip replacements and knee replacements and chronic pain.

And, you know, Hey, you know, we, we play the game of life too. And someone might get cancer. Someone might get in a motor vehicle accident. There’s things that happen. We are as coaches, we have the knowledge how to restore and grow. Um, but when I train someone, I’m training them on the day. I’m training them for their next game in the season.

Uh, but I’ll only train them in a way that I believe it’s helping them for the long game. How is this gonna affect them? 10 years from now, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, uh, more sustainable results and keep them robust and healthy, uh, long after they’ve spent time with me.

No, that’s a good word. Uh, when your athletes get done with you, can, are they healthy and can they keep going?

That’s good. Good stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. That’s a good metric right there. You just mentioned, I think. Yeah. And it’s, uh, and a good challenge in, uh, in sport, you know, where we’re always pushing the limits and competing hard, so excellent KPI, I think. Well that,

yeah. And I think, I think some of the biggest challenges today too, are getting athletes just to, to move better in general.

Right. You know, a lot of kids today have, have the video games and their cell phones and, and the recent pandemic didn’t help out too much with that sting inside and yeah, yeah. Doing classes from, from zoom, like we are right now, you know, and I I’ve seen a lot of your content in the past, you know, you’ve been trying to get athletes out out of the weight room and hiking, you know, out in the mountains and everything up in Vancouver, you know, for, for lack of a better term away from civilization, you know, how, how did you incorporate that into some of your younger athletes training and, and what was the feedback you got from them?

Oh, wow. You know, um, I’ll answer it cuz uh, you know, just to remind people to be open, you know, not, not to jump around at, at anything, but just to be, stay open, stay curious. And because I came out to Vancouver, which is on Canada’s west coast, above Seattle, above California, and I was from what we call the east.

Um, but Ontario, you know, more, more like central to Chicago and place like that. When I grew up at, uh, like, like many coaches did as athletes, I played every structured north American team sport and most of the individual scheduled sports, then I came out the Vancouver and I’m seeing like, uh, guy, guys on bikes, popping out the forest, you know?

And at first I’m like, this is crazy. What’s going on? Like I, it wasn’t, it wasn’t, uh, appealing to me. Um, One of the best things I did. I’ll be honest is because it, it rains, uh, it rains like crazy in Vancouver. We we’re surrounded by three mountains and rain forests, people move here, complain about the rain and we live in a rain forest.

So um, so wherever you are, you gotta find a way to get into it and enjoy it. And, um, I, I, I got a dog. I lived in an apartment, a condo. So I had, I, I had to, which the right word is get to, I thought to take the dog out twice a day in the pouring rain, in the snow, anything down to the beach, a little more into the forest.

And then I, I did it for the dog, but I, I notice how happy the dogs were. And I started to realize, well, so am I, and it feels pretty good. So if it feels good, it only feels something feels good. Really? If it’s good for my mental wellbeing or we know motion creates positive emotion. NA nature feeds the same.

So overall, uh, uh, sort of a life chapter here, I, I started to mountain bike and hike and ski and snowshoe and go through the fun I stopped. I stopped all the sports. I knew how to do pretty well and started to enjoy skill acquisition of, of new, new, uh, opportunities. The. So if I say, um, there was somewhere along the way, I also had a, um, uh, a health wrinkle that I had to iron out and I used going into nature and the forest a lot for that.

It it’s a place how, however you wanna take it. There’s so much, uh, scientific evidence, just like we have in the strength and conditioning and exercise physiology area. There’s a, there’s a commensurate level of research for nature and mountains. And. How that is evidence to affect the health fullness, the robustness of our cellular landscape.

So, uh, number one, I, I noticed, uh, right into the practicality of your question. Um, I noticed a lot of my athletes, um, great people working hard. Don’t get me wrong. Like, you know, my go to is, you know, we’re in the weight room or on the track or the field, and we’re gonna do anaerobic sprints and I’ve got garbage cans at each, at each end for them to throw up in like we’re going for it.

And we’re building grit and we’re working hard. Um, so this just isn’t like goat piece out in the, in the forest. , um, number one, I saw it for my young athletes. It’s an, it’s a very undulated terrain. You hike, you hike hard up a mountain. Um, and then you run down and you run the trails. You’re not place, you’re not planting your foot the same once.

That variability is naturally excellent for our muscle, our joints, our brain, our proprioceptive system. Um, but number two, I know, I know they’re under stress. They’re under mental duress. Uh, like a lot of humans are, but athletes in particular. And, um, this is a place we can go. This, this is our place to, uh, work and exercise by get grounded, truly get our feet in the soil.

And that sounds hopey to you look up the science on that and be Sur, be surrounded by an environment that’s all positive and very living. If there’s 200 foot trees and a big canopy, they’ve been there for 500 years and there’s growth on the ground. It’s just a very alive environment. It’s thriving, it’s trying to thrive.

Right. Um, so that that’s the environment we’re in. We’re, we’re all very affected by our environment. And we can go through the biochemistry of physiological and cellular changes that happen when you’re in that environment. Just even mentally, emotionally, our attitude, everything we’re surround, we’re affected by the people around us, the home, we live in the culture of our team and classmates and friends and the physical space.

So I see it as the optimal physical space, um, from that standpoint and teaching them, you know, to be a leader of one, we’re gonna be on this team. We’re gonna be the consummate teammate, but for me, um, while I’m giving to the team and I’m giving to the career and I’m giving to my family, my relationship, my, my parents, my kids, whatever, all ultimately I, how can I be at my best?

I need to be a leader of one, and we’re gonna work hard in output and work hard in output. Uh, but when do we receive, how do we fill up on good energy? How do we fill up on good attitude? How do we, uh, be kind to ourselves, get this exercise and training. If I go and do like a 90 minute hardcore lift, that’s benefiting as we know my muscle, my movement, if I do it a certain style, my brain, I don’t believe my cells like my cellular landscape, the foundation of the body.

I don’t believe my cells can differentiate from that exercise, stress mm-hmm as VE as compared to if the three of us were on here, yelling at each other, our cells just know stress our body, our muscle, our brain, it adapts, and it improves in its performance, but our cells just received stress. So, um, taking players out into that environment, it’s a place they can go.

We wanna own the process, right? Have our healthy inputs at our fingertips, be under control, own our own healthcare. And it’s a place we can go just to physically restore our body, improve the pace and completeness of our restoration. So we can come in and train better the next day. Um, but emotionally, mentally, that side of it is well spiritually.

If you wish, uh, to go in there, tho we can get good positive inputs for all those things. And if they ha, if they live in an area and Austin’s a, an amazing area, uh, with some of that, you know, where do we go? You gotta know, each person has to know where do I go? Where can I go when I need those type of things?

Where do I go? Who do I do it with? Uh, do I go solo, which gets a lot of benefit and O other people may respond well to something else. Someone might be writing. Someone might be piano, you know, there’s other, there’s other factors. It’s really our right brain at, at a university at college. Most of the information in classrooms is left brain analytical, scientific.

It’s all valuable, but we don’t get our right brain development. Your athletes sure do from their sports and training and movement Mo most people don’t. And the, the educational curriculum is left brain. So knowing more ways to like, get our right brain, uh, firing and feed our health and have them at our fingertips own the process.

Um, the, the athlete has to be able to quarter back, uh, that side of it and know, know when to go. Yeah.

It’s interesting. What you mentioned about like, Stressing ourselves. You know, if us three were to, you know, sit here and yell at each other, our body wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. And I feel like, you know, taking them outside or, you know, into, into a different environment and getting away from the screens.

I mean, we kind of touched on the social media, social media builds up these expectations of how we’re supposed to live and yeah, yeah. We’re supposed to be judged and all that. And I mean, that, that to me is stressful right there. You know, I, I look at these things, I’m on, uh, Instagram. I deleted most of my social media stuff, but, uh, I mean, it it’s just like, you don’t get that out there.

You know, you don’t get that when you go out and either hike, hunt, uh, like you mentioned snow shooting, bike, anything like that. So I, I personally, I loved it. You know, if you can get people out there and if you wanna learn how to move, um, And work on like some of your tactile centuries, go, go climb a mountain and have unsure footing and, and try, try to work through terrain.

That’ll that’ll teach you how to move real quick. So know, I, I, I love

the idea of it. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for that. And I’ll, I’ll sum up two things and I’ll pass it right back to you. From a training standpoint here. One of the things that we love to do most is, you know, hike up to the top of the mountain and I’m talking to mountain, you know, you can get up there, you know, within a couple hours, you’re pushing it hard and you’re through it’s thick.

It’s steep, man. It’s steep. The, uh, the players, the, the athletes, so shocked. They’re out, they’re out of breath, about two minutes in and, uh, it, it sneaks up on you, but we get to the top, whatever dogs are with us, we play tug of war to get them riled up. It’s like the pre-game warmup. And then it’s 3, 2, 1 go.

And we all race down. And you want to get good plyometric, deceleration training. Wow. You know? Wow. So, so athletic. So you can do really athletic things in there as well. Number one, from a training standpoint, from a restoration standpoint, I, I really think in all sports, that’s a huge edge. Can we restore our opponent?

Can we over restore our other team? Can we over restore our teammates who like we’re coming, we want to come in and approve and get more minutes for ourself. And I, I was never a restoration guy. I’m a through everything pullout guy and, uh, you know, and go hard. And you know, I’m sure a lot of us are hardwired that way.

So someone asked someone, literally, am I gonna share this? Cuz it affected me so much. Somebody said like, look you, everything you do, you do full. You know, and let’s keep it within a sport. Like you’re, you’re staying out on practice, extra, you know, you’re, you’re doing repeat sprints and everyone’s collapsed and you’re like crawling through another one, you know, you’re willing to go hard.

And you know, our, our, our athletes are like, we, we do everything. Well, we, we go full out. We have that ability and we need to do it. She said, you do those things to the extreme. Have you ever considered, why don’t you just restore to the extreme because restoration, you know, it’s kind of soft and it’s like away from all that other part.

And it’s like, oh, now you’re speaking my language. I think you, I, I bit the hook it’s like, Hmm, well, like if we’re gonna get restored, why don’t we get into it? Like we do everything else. Yeah. And like, do it complete, do it meticulous. Do it really well. Do it full, do it full out in that restoration wise, like, and really, so that’s, so I’ve gone complete on there with everything else and it’s a huge benefit.

Just, you know, dabbling in it is a little bit helpful, but why you get into it and go for it, help restore everybody. And that spoke, spoke my competitor and my athlete and coach language and kind of opened me up to like, yeah, I’m gonna go Excel. I’m gonna Excel at restoration. Right. And it’s just the getting the right mindset around that can kind of welcome us to do better at certain things that are advantageous to us.

Yeah. And I, I like what you said, coach. I mean, I totally believe. To your point, you’ve people, if you really wanna restore and you know, what do you call it? Regeneration or restore restoration. Yes. Fully. You’ve gotta train really hard to your point. You mean, you know, that’s the first thing you mentioned, but I think today there’s been a little bit, some people have just gotten so caught up in the restoration, but they’re not training hard, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. So I think to your point, I think that was, that was spot on like the same mentality you have to train, whether it’s sprint or in the weight room or whatever, you’re all out, fully committed, then you need to be that way too with your restoration and regeneration as well. So good stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, right on. Well, again and fair point always have better encouragement. There’s people that might be restoring 24 7. So right. They add enough of that. Uh, and a lot of people are, you know, being on social media. Isn’t restoring, even though I can enjoy that, watching Netflix isn’t restoring. You know, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s that you’re kind of distracted and you’re chilled.

You’re not, you’re not training, but you’re not restoring. So like to get into a restoration program. I’ve got two. I know we’re on, uh, we’re on audio here. You guys can see, I got two bands I wear one’s opportunity is now. And that just means the times now. So right now, how can I learn and grow? How can I improve?

How can I help others get better? And it’s that, that awareness of now as a coach and athlete, um, my philosophy with that is, and it’s kind of looking at training and going hard and restoration, but just improving, you know, the opportunities now. So one, uh, one, three goals I have is to each moment, learn from the people I’m with, uh, and number two.

Uh, how can I show up? And I wanna show, try and show up in a way to the people in the moment that we’re in. And when I leave, I leave the people and the moment better than when I showed up, you know, an athlete gets that under their belt. Like every time they show up, you might just be buying a cup of coffee at Starbucks, could be coming into the gym for a team training session.

But I wanna leave all these people better from this moment than when I showed up to it. And, you know, the opposite is terrible. And to be a non-factor is just insignificant. I see a difference. And then I, I always wear a, a better every day than still on my wrist. And that’s just, you know, I’m aspiring.

Sometimes I fail. Uh, some days I have setbacks, but I’m, it makes me cognizant. So. My third thing I want to do in every environment is, uh, besides affect you positively affect the learn and grow and get a little bit better. But every day I try and just get, you know, better every day. It’s the same mantra and words that you guys use 24 7 in there in different ways, but to, to really, to really own it, I’m a big believer in, uh, symbolism, you know, so I started to associate actions and tangible things with the, the, the mindset and the actions I need to have to make those come true.

So, um, using the moment now and focusing on us, uh, getting better, kind of a me, I think those are two, two powerful things that athlete young athletes can carry and coaches in their career, um, with leading them.

No, I love it, coach. I think I totally agree. You definitely have a very, uh, uplifting, energetic and inspirational kind of even just.

Mentality. And I do, I believe that that, you know, there’s two types of people in life there’s lifters and leaners, you know, leaners or people that just always kind of like kind of bringing things down. You’re always having to carry ’em. But like, I, I love being, I love that thought, like what you’re saying that where have you come into assist?

You wanna lift it, make it better, improve it, even it just a fraction that’s, that’s a great, uh, life mantra and, and mentality and spirit to have. So you definitely, uh, resonate with that too. So

appreciate it, coach. I, I do thank you. And, uh, appreciate your, your two, uh, two words in your mantra there. I’m gonna crack.

I’m gonna be quoting you on that. I love it. but I’ll, I’ll be coaching. I’ll be self-taught coaching. I’ll be, don’t be a leaner. That’ll be a lifter. That’s right. Kicking myself in the butt.

you can go ahead, Joe. We’re probably, uh, out of time for the day, but Joe, if you wanna wrap it up and we’ll land, land a plane, so.

Yeah. So yeah, just a couple things. Um, one, what, what resources would you recommend to our listeners and then two, where, where could we find you on social media?

Uh, so the social media part, um, my, my address there is coach Peter twist on Instagram, and then they, they can look up Peter twist on Facebook if, if they’re, you know, on, on that archaic platform, which I am.

And, uh, so both those are fine and, you know, from a resource because it there’s a collaboration of authors. Um, I’m gonna turn people’s attention because it’s just so present for us to, uh, twist university.com. And what is being built on there is kind of a, an online community of lifters not leans. So to associate more with folks that want to go on that app and affect each other that way.

And they really want to get after, you know, aspirational leadership goals, but it’s a, it’s a place to specialized certification courses to study digitally. There’s, uh, five learning pathways that help someone take their breadth of strength and conditioning and training knowledge and specialized, whether that’s sport performance, functional brain training, holistic health, youth, physical literacy, mental wellbeing, champion mindset.

On that side, you know, you can specialize with a few courses. So you start to develop that niche, raise your expertise. And for those that are out in private practice, then it allows you to become truly expert there because which. Our high value clients that will pay money. You know, if you need heart surgery, you go to a heart surgeon, not the family doctor.

And so on the same enology, anytime any of us need a solution or have a goal, we’re gonna try and go to a specialist in that specific area. So it’s just it’s helps. It helps coaches develop, enhance their specialty niche, that they can really need the point of their spear. And as a resource, one of the reasons I mentioned that is they’re all brand new this year.

They’re gonna get, continue to get built out. Of course, I’m an author of that, but there’s also other collaborator collaborators as a resource like Dr. Jack Toton, who’s the founder of sports medicine in Canada. Uh, he’s been to about 12 Olympic games and he wrote the, uh, sports medicine curriculum at the university British Columbia.

So there’s a number of other folks that are lifelong leaders in their area are contributing. And, uh, that’s, that’s a great resource. We, uh, they can learn from many special.

Awesome. Thank you. Well, yeah, coach, like you said, I think we’re, we’re running a short time. Um, coach, thanks for coming on. I mean all the way from, from the great north, uh, uh, yeah, I know your time is valuable and it’s, it was awesome.

See, and talk to you. Yeah, so great.

Yeah. I enjoyed speaking with both of you and, uh, your, your audience probably are all knows that, but your, your national championships and your, uh, your, your runner was up to that as well. You know, naturally it’s evident. I, I said earlier to, uh, to the coaches before that, before the podcast started that, um, numbers don’t lie and, you know, successes earned and, and.

Um, so

on. So that really gives evidence to the great work that you’re doing. There, that’s a key key foundation to athletic success. So I T my hat to that and, uh, love being on here, chatting and happy to share, but, uh, really appreciate listening to both of you and picking up things myself, uh, as well as a lifelong learner.

So thank you for what you’re doing there. And thank you for having me on coach

Joe coach Peter twists. It has been an honor and pleasure that’s that’s it for the team behind the team this month. And, uh, again, follow Peter twist. If you haven’t looked him up. Super sharp coach been doing this a lot longer than all of us combined.

So lot to learn from coach. Thanks again. And you take care in Canada and that’s it. We’ll see you next month on the team behind

the team. All right. All right.

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