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Mental health and wellness. And<br \/>\nSports nutrition.<br \/>\nHello, everybody, and welcome back to the team behind the team podcast. I&#8217;m your host,<br \/>\nDonny mate, and today&#8217;s special guest will be wears multiple<br \/>\nhats, as you&#8217;ll hear in a moment. But before we get to our guest, I do have a co-host helped me<br \/>\ntoday to do this interview, coach Mike Hansen, who works at the University of Texas. He trains<br \/>\nour women&#8217;s swim team and our women&#8217;s crew rowing team. Mike, say a lot, everybody today. Hello,<br \/>\neverybody. So, Mike, good to have you in here to help with the interview. Mike and Dan have<br \/>\na a relationship through coach Cal Dietz and just through following<br \/>\nDan Victor Victor on different things you&#8217;ve done. So<br \/>\nwithout further ado, let&#8217;s welcome our guest host, Dan Victor to my center right college center right<br \/>\ntoday. Welcome to the show. Say hello to everybody. Hello, everybody. It&#8217;s great to be here. And he got in late<br \/>\nlast night. Dan is here speaking at our clinic this weekend. It&#8217;s his January. And you got<br \/>\nin from New York, right, coach? So he&#8217;s a little sleep deprived, deprived in. But he&#8217;s here if you had to barbecue.<br \/>\nYeah, coach, I have not. So we have failed him. We&#8217;ll get. We&#8217;ll get<br \/>\nhim. We&#8217;ll get him. We&#8217;ve got to get him Tex-Mex. And we&#8217;ve got to get him barbecue. So a little<br \/>\nbit about Dan and we&#8217;ll turn over to you, Mike. But Dan is the owner of Want<br \/>\nto Get Fast. It&#8217;s a sports performance business in Rochester, New York. And the head football<br \/>\ncoach at say it again for his coach, Randy Quaid. High school. I cannot say that yet. I need to work on it. But<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s a head high school coach. He&#8217;s one of the most innovative and educated coaches in our<br \/>\nfield. And I would attest to that. You spoke to our staff today, and it was just it was absolutely<br \/>\nphenomenal. Dan&#8217;s knowledge of the neurological aspects of training<br \/>\nis on another level. He travels around the country speaking on speed training, strength training,<br \/>\nand how developing the nervous system can dramatically increase performance. So it&#8217;s<br \/>\na little bit about Dan. Coach Hansen, take it from here and lead us into it. Yeah. Thanks<br \/>\nfor joining us, Stan. First, we just want you, if you can, to introduce yourself<br \/>\nto our listeners. How did you become a high school head football coach? Always that path like<br \/>\nin how did you become an owner of a private training facility?<br \/>\nIronically, I went to AROUNDA to quit high school. High school senior played football,<br \/>\nran track. I wanted to compete in three sports, played basketball,<br \/>\nsays multi-sport athlete in high school decided I wanted to play football, although basketball was my<br \/>\nfavorite sport. But I&#8217;m vertically challenged so that wasn&#8217;t going to happen. So I kept up with the football.<br \/>\nAnd these two of us and played football collegiately at Brockport<br \/>\nState Division Three School in upstate New York had an opportunity to play in the Arena Football League for a few years<br \/>\nand Canada. So with that quest of trying to play<br \/>\nprofessional football, I delved into the strength training and the speed training, and<br \/>\nit just absolutely intrigued every part of me to figure out how<br \/>\npeople run so fast and are so strong. From there, I<br \/>\ngot my degree from Brockport and I started to teach. So I was a high school physics teacher for<br \/>\neleven years. And in that time period, I was running my gym and<br \/>\npro about halfway through opening my gym. I was like, I got to do<br \/>\nthis full time to be able to commit to it. So I love teaching left teaching for about five years<br \/>\nto open up two businesses, one in Rochester, New York, and one in Tampa, Florida.<br \/>\nAnd all that time, I was an assistant football coach.<br \/>\nSo then the head football coaching job came open at the high school and I went to and I&#8217;m like, I have<br \/>\nto do that. That&#8217;s something that, you know, you just feel like it&#8217;s it&#8217;s your<br \/>\ncalling. And so I closed the gym in Tampa and I said, I&#8217;ll have one gym here.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll go back to teaching and I&#8217;ll be there. Head high school football coach. And I&#8217;ve loved every second<br \/>\nof that change and just the ability to meet new people and coming out here. It&#8217;s been<br \/>\na blast. Laughs That&#8217;s awesome. Your your approach to training is<br \/>\nunique in that you use a variety of methods that aren&#8217;t too commonly used<br \/>\nto influence the neuromuscular system in order to maximize performance. So can you talk about<br \/>\nwhy the nervous system is so important for performance and then maybe dove into a few brain based<br \/>\nmethods that you do use? Well, I think the nervous system is important because most<br \/>\npeople talk about training the central nervous system when they&#8217;re training. I take a little bit more<br \/>\nphilosophy about brain based stuff. Are we really addressing right hemisphere? Left hemisphere?<br \/>\nAre we talking about cerebellum stuff? I mean, these are the things that get down to actual movement patterns.<br \/>\nAnd to be honest, we are strength coaches where our conditioning coaches, but we&#8217;re movement coaches. We have to help<br \/>\nathletes move better if we don&#8217;t don&#8217;t care how strong you are, don&#8217;t care how fast you are. If you don&#8217;t move<br \/>\ncorrectly, you&#8217;re either going to get hurt or your performance is going to be terrible.<br \/>\nSo that question, you know, you talk about there&#8217;s a lot of different philosophies rolled into<br \/>\nwhat I do because I&#8217;ve learned from so many great people. I tell you, if there&#8217;s anything that<br \/>\nI would brag about, it&#8217;d be the opportunity that I&#8217;ve had to study with different people and the great mentors I&#8217;ve had.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;ve been out with Mel Siff from Super Training. I&#8217;ve had an opportunity to sit<br \/>\ndown with some really phenomenal strength and conditioning coaches and just learn from people<br \/>\nand continue to learn. And then from there, you develop what you do. Mm<br \/>\nhmm. Coach, you kind of you kind of talked about it today with our staff, but<br \/>\nwhat are some things you do to assess your athletes nervous system readiness? You know, today, amigo,<br \/>\nthey got a lot of technology. But I mean, really, the coach&#8217;s eye still is pride one of the best<br \/>\ntools. Would you agree? Yeah. I really believe that. And so<br \/>\nwhat I do is I take a look at three or four different systems in the body to see how we can impact<br \/>\nmovement. One of those system is the vestibular system. So I&#8217;ll talk about that tomorrow. When I speak<br \/>\nto in that seminar is how do we evaluate the vestibular system?<br \/>\nWe&#8217;ll also talk about the AIS and the power, the power behind the eyes, not just from<br \/>\nlifting heavy weights, but how it can impact our human gait, which is what<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re all chasing. And as much as we all like to lift weights and do these things,<br \/>\nyour gait pattern is so responsible for the success that you have in athletics that<br \/>\nyou have to address it. In training, you have to. So we&#8217;ll address the appropriate septic<br \/>\nsystem, the vestibular system, the visual system. And we try to we try to pack<br \/>\nthat all into what we&#8217;re normally going to do in a workout. And if I can<br \/>\nget that involved in a weight room session without kids knowing I&#8217;m doing<br \/>\nit, that&#8217;s the way I like the game. Yeah, that&#8217;s key. Yeah. Because then they&#8217;re they&#8217;re asking questions like what?<br \/>\nWhy this? Why that? And their job is to get better. And if they&#8217;re getting stronger while<br \/>\nI&#8217;m implementing these techniques, that&#8217;s all that matters. Q<br \/>\nDo you have a few examples of as far as how you address whether being a warm up or during your<br \/>\nyour session, whether it&#8217;s the vestibular system or the ocular system, whatever<br \/>\nit may be. So today we&#8217;ve talked a little bit about AI dominance. You&#8217;re right, dominant left AI dominance<br \/>\nand we showed examples of how that can create strength or how can it can actually limit<br \/>\nyou. So if you know that that&#8217;s a strength or, you know, it&#8217;s a weakness<br \/>\ntraining, it is going to help it. Right. So I don&#8217;t think many people<br \/>\ntrain their weak guy in a gym. The gyms that I&#8217;ve gone and talked<br \/>\nto people, they don&#8217;t understand those concepts. So but it&#8217;s pretty powerful and it gets<br \/>\ninstantaneous results. So we address that. The vestibular system can<br \/>\nbe added to anything as a potentiation because it&#8217;s responsible<br \/>\nfor your extensor muscles. So spinning, enrolling and tumbling, all these things<br \/>\nactivate your vestibular system, which in turn kicks in same side extensor as<br \/>\nif I can do that. I&#8217;m going to enhance performance. So it&#8217;s kind of like a no brainer that I want to get these<br \/>\ninvolved right away before we workout and even after to recover because<br \/>\nthe vestibular system is responsible for your parasympathetic nervous system. If we can get those kicked<br \/>\nin as we&#8217;re done training and I can get back to that normal heart rate, I can get back to our rest<br \/>\nand digest. I&#8217;m ahead of the game recovering faster. Yeah, I really<br \/>\nlike the example you gave us earlier today. If you&#8217;re a right tackle<br \/>\nand maybe your right eye is not so dominant, not as dominant, your left eye on<br \/>\nthat can be a weakness if you have an end coming off the edge to your right side. Yeah. Learning from a lot of great football<br \/>\ncoaches that you have to have an answer. You always have to have an answer for something they won&#8217;t want to know. Right.<br \/>\nSo, I mean, as a football coach, I&#8217;m not quite sure I have an answer why my right tackle<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t kick slide. And every time that Lufthansa coming in, he&#8217;s can&#8217;t<br \/>\nblock them. While he might not be able to do it because he&#8217;s left dominant in his right visual<br \/>\nfield is weaker. All right. So knowing how to train that can make you a better football player.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s really good. What about if we were to go into your weight room? Coach, what kind of if you were to give us a<br \/>\nlittle bit of a snapshot, what kind of exercises methods you would be<br \/>\nusing to enhance performance? Well, the two guys who run my gym now, Nick Marino and<br \/>\nDonato Clemente, they made the trip up here with me. What you would see from them are two guys<br \/>\nthat have been through the system before that are as explosive as anybody<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve ever coached in the gym. And both have over 40 inch vertical jump and can bench press to the corner<br \/>\nuntil you tell them to stop. But what you&#8217;ll see is force absorption. Can<br \/>\nyour body absorb force and can it absorb force in the proper position? And once that<br \/>\nhappens, good thing starts to happen. But those are two coaches that can demo everything.<br \/>\nYeah, they&#8217;re pretty good. I can&#8217;t do that anymore. They&#8217;re pretty good. I&#8217;m right there with the<br \/>\ninterns. We try to recruit to all of demonstrating for us.<br \/>\nWe&#8217;ve kind of already addressed this a little bit, but we can maybe dove a little bit further. And that&#8217;s<br \/>\nin your observation or in your opinion. Are there any key variables or even pieces to performance that get<br \/>\nswept over in our field? Maybe our underutilized. Whether it be isometrics<br \/>\nor whatever other methods, anything that&#8217;s largely unexplored. Yeah, I&#8217;ll say two things.<br \/>\nOne is the relationships you have with the kids that you&#8217;re training. I think it&#8217;s important for for them to<br \/>\ntrust you and to have faith in you as you&#8217;re starting to, especially in a<br \/>\nprogram like mine where things are different. It doesn&#8217;t look like a normal weight room. All right. So they have to build that<br \/>\ntrust. You have to show them that you care about them in order for them to care and for them to get better.<br \/>\nSo they&#8217;ll be number one. Number two is definitely the use of isometrics, isometrics in various<br \/>\npositions. Isometrics as it relates to recovery, as it relates to a potentiation<br \/>\nin all phases. And then addressing the gate, the human gate.<br \/>\nIf you&#8217;re not addressing it, I think you&#8217;re really minimizing the results you&#8217;re going<br \/>\nto get. Yeah, we talked a little bit again about it today with long-duration Isometrics<br \/>\nor whatever name that you do have for those. But holding a position typically seen as like a yielding<br \/>\nisometric. Yeah. One that you&#8217;re not pushing against the immovable object. What are some<br \/>\nadaptations that you seek when you utilize those, how you coach them? Yeah. Well I think<br \/>\nJay Shroder is the guy who who claimed that and started that. But Isometrics had<br \/>\nbeen around for a long time with the Russians about joint specific isometrics and all that stuff. And we know that<br \/>\nit works and we know it&#8217;s a real powerful way to get strong. What we didn&#8217;t realize up<br \/>\nuntil recently is that when you do things in a split squat stance and you&#8217;re working symmetrically, there<br \/>\nyou are actually the brain will actually complete the process for you. So if you<br \/>\nare in a split squat lunge, you are actually working on your sprinting gait<br \/>\nand your brain believes that it&#8217;s operating at full speed. So now you&#8217;re minimizing<br \/>\nthe impact forces. You&#8217;re going to minimize injuries in your gym and your body<br \/>\nis going through those patterns, whether it be reflex arcs, whether it be<br \/>\nfrom muscle recruitment of how you are getting into the isometric positions. So it<br \/>\ndoes a lot in terms of fixing the way we run when people come<br \/>\nto my gym. They always say, well, your name, your company is want to get fast? Are you&#8217;re going to teach my son or daughter<br \/>\nhow to run with your knees up on the balls of your feet. I&#8217;m like known people don&#8217;t run on the balls of their feet around<br \/>\ntheir heels on purpose. They run because they are they have something from a neurological standpoint<br \/>\nwhere they&#8217;re deflecting force, where they cannot absorb force. So we have to find that in the weight room<br \/>\nand we have to fix it. I&#8217;m curious through. I got a little interesting question here.<br \/>\nSome have fought orders and been<br \/>\nseeing them come up through high school athletics. And I&#8217;m really I&#8217;ve watched the club.<br \/>\nWe have my daughters play club volleyball, a lot of soccer. You&#8217;re talking about a little bit about<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re working with younger athletes. What have you seen as far as<br \/>\nearly sport specialization in some of your training? And what have you done<br \/>\nto help maybe offset some of the negative effects of that? What are your thoughts on that? Coach, I think<br \/>\nwe are playing so much game stuff, basketball, volleyball<br \/>\naround you&#8217;re around that. I think what happens is your skill<br \/>\nis better than your physiology. Yeah, that&#8217;s a good that&#8217;s because when you start doing<br \/>\nso. So you can&#8217;t if your skill level is higher than your physiology,<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re going to break at some point. So we have to back it up a little bit and readdress that physiology<br \/>\npart. And a lot of people don&#8217;t do that. I think isometrics is the best way to do<br \/>\nthat with kids who are that active. Right. Because parents will come in and say, well, we have volleyball<br \/>\non Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then soccer on Thursday. And then we. And I&#8217;m like. And<br \/>\nyou want to train? Save your money. Because we have I mean, just the<br \/>\nmy daughter playing volleyball. They&#8217;ll be in a tournament two days in a row.<br \/>\nThey&#8217;ll play five or more matches in one day. We don&#8217;t ask<br \/>\nour high level athletes to do that, but we&#8217;re asking our young athletes to do that now if they&#8217;re not playing<br \/>\nit with the same impact and force and it&#8217;s not at the speed. Right. But still, it&#8217;s<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s on top of concrete. Yeah, it&#8217;s sport caught on concrete. The thing to say.<br \/>\nYeah, there&#8217;s a gap there and it&#8217;s really big missing though. I think we have to start addressing it again.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s when when I look at my son, I watch him do things with the basketball at 9<br \/>\nyears old, I&#8217;m like, boy, I couldn&#8217;t do this. But he wants to do a.<br \/>\nBut his body&#8217;s not ready to do it. So he&#8217;s gonna get the B result and that&#8217;s not good. So,<br \/>\nyeah, I&#8217;m growing up in Minnesota playing hockey and Ryan working with hockey players. It&#8217;s<br \/>\nprobably the equivalent of Texas football and you see extreme side of that. Sure. So we&#8217;re at the gym.<br \/>\nHockey players come off the ice where they got up early, 6:00 a.m., 7:30 or 9 hour.<br \/>\nExcuse me. We&#8217;ll come right up to the weight room. Roll out, warm up, lift. It&#8217;s been an hour and a half, so<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve spent the first three to three and a half hours of their day training. They&#8217;ll come back<br \/>\nlater in the day, in the afternoon to some steak handling, shooting behind them on dry land<br \/>\nshoes. It never ends, right. Because then you had your tournament teams in the summer that you need to<br \/>\nmake for scouts to see you or whatever it may be. And before you know it, you&#8217;re back right into<br \/>\nthe regular season of hockey. So it got to a point in the summer when I was training some high level hockey players where I&#8217;d<br \/>\nwatch them run. And I&#8217;m like, stop, stop. We&#8217;re not doing that because you&#8217;re going to hurt yourself. Fish<br \/>\nout of water. We got to figure out something else for you to do because you never learn that skill.<br \/>\nYou were on the ice and that&#8217;s OK. And making millions of dollars now. So I guess it paid off<br \/>\nfor them. But what about all the other people who aren&#8217;t? I didn&#8217;t develop all those skills. No, I tried to teach tumbling<br \/>\nto a bunch of hockey players did not go well. Simple, tumbling. Just roll. Do all properly<br \/>\nto you. So, you know, there&#8217;s going to be a cost to that. There&#8217;s gonna<br \/>\nbe a cost to that. Speaking of movement, what strategies or methods have you use to improve<br \/>\nmotor learning? Coach? Well, some of the systems that we&#8217;re working with<br \/>\nnow are addressing motor control restoration, which I don&#8217;t<br \/>\nthink anybody&#8217;s utilizing that stuff right now. Guy out of Chicago created the system and it&#8217;s<br \/>\njust it&#8217;s unbelievable how simple<br \/>\nbrain communication with joint actions that are intolerant of load can change<br \/>\nthe way you move and the way you can learn new patterns. I think everybody is into,<br \/>\nyou know, the motor learning part of rehearsing things and practicing. We got that down pretty good.<br \/>\nBut from a standpoint of trying to increase your capacity to learn it<br \/>\nand absorb those forces from it in multiple joint plains of motion, I<br \/>\nthink that&#8217;s that&#8217;s where our industry is going. Good stuff.<br \/>\nCan I take you back to isometrics a little? Sure. So I know he kind of talked about long-duration ISO&#8217;s.<br \/>\nDo you use anything that short duration use overcoming ISO&#8217;s? You know, what types do you use?<br \/>\nCal talked a lot about the feet. We use all those foot isometrics. Big believer<br \/>\nin that. We use a lot of short five-second isometric hold to fix. Like we&#8217;re<br \/>\ntalking about the motor control issues. So in order to restore that motor control,<br \/>\nthose certain types of isometric exercises allow the brain to communicate better with the brain,<br \/>\nwith the joints. So once you have that implementing of any other training<br \/>\nsystem is going to make it that much better. So isometrics play a role from the start<br \/>\nto the finish. Right. And I know it can be a little bit unique depending<br \/>\non how you coach or who you are and where you learned. But I&#8217;ve heard before, whether<br \/>\nit&#8217;s a heavy ISO or something, that you&#8217;re going to hold very long duration<br \/>\nto be constantly pulling yourself into position. Is that something that you do? Yeah, we do. Pulling ourselves<br \/>\ninto position and the intent of what? What is the intent of the movement? Meaning if you&#8217;re doing<br \/>\na split squat, lunge is your thought process on running. So now we&#8217;re<br \/>\ngonna get more mortar unit activation based off of that gate cycle or that sprint cycle.<br \/>\nA lot of people just hold it just to hold it right. So. They&#8217;re wiping their nose or doing all kinds of other things.<br \/>\nI want the athlete invested in exactly what they&#8217;re doing at that moment versus<br \/>\npassively. Can&#8217;t exactly sit in the opposition. You know how. I&#8217;m curious, how frequently would you use ISO&#8217;s?<br \/>\nOh, we use it all the time. Every day in every workout. Every workout. They&#8217;re doing some<br \/>\ntype of isometric work. Yeah. Yeah, we build it in interest set where they&#8217;re<br \/>\ndoing ISO dynamic, where they&#8217;re holding it on their chest and then wrapping out after that, we&#8217;ll do it at the bottom of a squat<br \/>\nto multiple reps of squats. We will do it just in an a bar ISIL<br \/>\nhold for a long duration. We&#8217;ll do a wall squat. We&#8217;ll do a lunge. Like<br \/>\nI said, our warm up is joint specific isometrics. So we use it in all<br \/>\nareas of our training in the biggest return on the ISO&#8217;s. What&#8217;s what&#8217;s good? First of all, it&#8217;s<br \/>\nit&#8217;s the force absorption issue that you need to be able to absorb force. But<br \/>\nif you&#8217;re constantly absorbing force in the wrong position, you&#8217;re gonna get hurt. Yeah. So I<br \/>\nthink it keeps your injuries down in the weight room. Yeah. The way I mean, I&#8217;ve started experimenting<br \/>\nwith some of them and I really like them. I I&#8217;ll know personally I&#8217;ve I&#8217;ve done some myself.<br \/>\nIt doesn&#8217;t beat me up now. And that&#8217;s what I think. You know, I don&#8217;t feel like my muscles<br \/>\nare they feel strong still. Yeah. But I&#8217;m not walking around. I kind of like, oh man. I<br \/>\njust went through a tough session right there, you know? Yeah. You&#8217;re still getting that neuro stimulation from it<br \/>\nwithout having to put your muscles through the work of it. So because if you think about like a yielding<br \/>\nisometric or something where you&#8217;re pushing against something that&#8217;s not moving. Right. You&#8217;re going to rip<br \/>\napart all of that. That&#8217;s pretty intense workout when you&#8217;re pulling yourself into position<br \/>\nand holding and ranges of motion is a completely different animal to the brain.<br \/>\nAnd then while we&#8217;re in those positions, I&#8217;ll begin to add other neurological stacking call.<br \/>\nSo whether it&#8217;s eye exercises, vestibular exercises, vestibular colic, reflex<br \/>\nstuff, all look like weird tricks, but<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re just sensory input that&#8217;s making the motor pattern that we&#8217;re creating and that isometric even<br \/>\nmore powerful. You make me think we just took a course recently and I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve<br \/>\nlooked into it yet, but it&#8217;s called stic mobility. And we&#8217;ve got the sticks<br \/>\nand the GM, it&#8217;s fairly new. It&#8217;s not that new, but it&#8217;s just a system built around ISO&#8217;s.<br \/>\nYeah. When you get when you get right down to it, if you want increased mobility of a joint, you&#8217;ve got to you&#8217;re going to have<br \/>\nthese ISO&#8217;s and there&#8217;s varying degrees. They don&#8217;t use isometrics. They use. I think if you&#8217;re an irritation,<br \/>\nis their terminology a little different? And I use it a lot for priming, for doing some of the bigger<br \/>\nlifts. But also, again, I think just from taking the course, it opened up my<br \/>\neyes of just the importance and power of just holding positions with tension.<br \/>\nAnd that opens it up. So you look at kids position now, it&#8217;s terrible. We<br \/>\nhave to go back and re teach kids how to get in the proper position for anything. Right.<br \/>\nAnd I think we we go from A to Z so fast because their skill level is taking<br \/>\noff so much that they think when they come in the weight room, this is going to be easy. You&#8217;ve got to go back and get to those<br \/>\nrudimentary, right? Yeah. What the what? The tissue reeducation.<br \/>\nSo our rowing our rowers tried that this year for our GPP, the second year in a row. We&#8217;ve done it,<br \/>\nbut we threw them into a long duration. ISEF So two minutes, three minutes we went up to four<br \/>\nminutes. You can see the difference that comes back to the coach&#8217;s eyes in the warm up. You can kind<br \/>\nof see when they stand with our rowers, they do. Thousands of strokes a day where they don&#8217;t get to<br \/>\nfull hip extension. And that&#8217;s on top of sitting in class for two hours a week there and observation, right.<br \/>\nSo we&#8217;ll do those split lungi cells where we put them in that position in their cued to pull<br \/>\nthemselves down to just above the ground. And whether it works or not, I don&#8217;t know. But from the<br \/>\neye test, it&#8217;s like they stand up after that and they&#8217;re sore, but they just they stand taller without even being<br \/>\ntold. And they&#8217;re ready to do it again. You can recover at the same time. That&#8217;s right. That&#8217;s kind of neat<br \/>\nwhen you&#8217;re when you&#8217;re talking about brain stuff. It&#8217;s also reflex driven. So if you are training something,<br \/>\nyou should be recovering at near the same time. Right. So the other the other part<br \/>\nwith with ISO&#8217;s that that will do is a lot of times will control their breathing.<br \/>\nRight. So I&#8217;m a big we put water in their mouth and it forces<br \/>\nnasal breathing. When you start to manipulate that, the performance gains<br \/>\nare incredible. Yeah, I&#8217;ve heard of the military has been using that for a long ways to tape their mouth<br \/>\nshut. But then some of the administrators say it doesn&#8217;t look so good. Ministration walked in and saw.<br \/>\nNo. And I&#8217;m like, why keep him quiet? They don&#8217;t talk when they&#8217;re training. But you know, the<br \/>\nbook, The Oxygen Advantage, you know, if you ever read that book, I have not seen coaching.<br \/>\nPatrick McKeever is isn&#8217;t my. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It&#8217;s good. Yeah. Yeah. It&#8217;s designed to breathe through<br \/>\nbreathe through our nose and our mouth. Ever diaphragmatic breathing. IBNR don&#8217;t know if<br \/>\nI pronounce his name right. He is. Have you heard of Evan? I have not. So he.<br \/>\nHe&#8217;s big and I think he&#8217;s a chiropractor or he&#8217;s more of an APB out. Yeah. Yeah.<br \/>\nBut you know, he talks about nasal breathing and diaphragmatic breathing and in quite a few of his books, so<br \/>\nknow. Oh yeah. Page which echoes the same thing is oxygen advantage. Yeah. So what. So instead of taping<br \/>\nwe&#8217;ll put, you know, water in the mouth and it does the same trick as the same trick. And that&#8217;s<br \/>\nalmost the concept of stacking. You&#8217;re working on one thing while at the same time working on another. Absolutely.<br \/>\nWhich you can add. I&#8217;ve heard you do. Is it Eissa KADES? Yeah, I isakhan. We do all different<br \/>\ntypes of eye exercises and we&#8217;ll test to see which ones kids respond to. So when they&#8217;re doing their isometrics,<br \/>\nthey know what eye positions they&#8217;re gonna get into. And then we do some stuff with cerebellum<br \/>\npositions that will allow you to get into a deeper lunge because as you look<br \/>\na certain way, it activates certain parts, certain muscles. But it also<br \/>\nrelaxes certain muscles. So it&#8217;s a great way to lengthen a stride. It&#8217;s a great way to get into<br \/>\ndifferent positions, which all this just kind of reinforces that everything just comes back to the brain. It<br \/>\ndoes. It&#8217;s not really does. Well, I&#8217;ve heard that I&#8217;ve heard both you and<br \/>\nCarl speak about the influence that bilateral and unilateral exercises have on<br \/>\nthe nervous system. We talked a little bit about it earlier today. It seems that the bilateral versus<br \/>\nunilateral exercise has been kind of a continuous debate amongst coaches in our field,<br \/>\nwhether one&#8217;s better ones were Swann&#8217;s good ones not. And while they&#8217;re<br \/>\nmerits of both depending on one&#8217;s circumstances or what they have to work with. Can you weigh<br \/>\nin on how those patterns of both bilateral or unilateral exercises influence<br \/>\nthe nervous system? I don&#8217;t have a preference on either one. I think both have merit and both can<br \/>\ncan help an athlete. What I do think you have to realize and I explain this today is that there<br \/>\nis a negative consequence to lifting weights bilaterally. There just is. I mean, it will<br \/>\ntemporarily paralyze your nervous system to where you don&#8217;t have strength.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;ve shown that hundreds of times at various clinics. Now, it doesn&#8217;t mean you lose your strength<br \/>\nforever. It simply means that you need to respond with something that is of a cross crawl<br \/>\nconcept. And most unilateral stuff is cross crawl. So, you know, do I like<br \/>\nunilateral trade? Absolutely. I think it&#8217;s great if the athlete is prepared to be on one leg. That&#8217;s awesome.<br \/>\nBut I think it&#8217;s more of a brain issue. And to be honest, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s debatable because I think<br \/>\nbilateral training is fine. There&#8217;s anything wrong with it. Right? It&#8217;s just you better have the answer<br \/>\nwhen it shuts off, because if you look at power lifters, they&#8217;re not the best movers.<br \/>\nAnd again, our business, we get paid to make people move. Right. One of the sorry coach,<br \/>\none of the things you said there that stuck out was, was there&#8217;s a consequence to it. And it&#8217;s<br \/>\nnot only just bilateral, but really anything we do in the weight room, whether it&#8217;s nice, symmetric or breathing<br \/>\nor it seems like there&#8217;s, of course, a pro to it or there should be a reason that why we&#8217;re doing it. But there&#8217;s also always<br \/>\nconsequences. Absolutely. And I think that&#8217;s something just from my limited experience in the field<br \/>\nthat sometimes gets overlooked amongst coaches is whatever you are doing, it&#8217;s, you know, not<br \/>\nthe end of it. It&#8217;s not that the answer always. Right. There&#8217;s a consequence to what you&#8217;re doing. And you got to evaluate<br \/>\nwhat are you giving and what are you taking. But the stuff that I&#8217;ve studied in<br \/>\nthe last three years, it just confirms that I know very little about the human body<br \/>\nbecause I&#8217;ve spent a lot of years doing things that. I thought were this is the best<br \/>\nand I&#8217;ve completely changed my philosophy, so you have to in this business, I think you<br \/>\nhave to be willing to, you know, stick your neck out and go, what else is out there? Because I can&#8217;t have<br \/>\nall the answers and we don&#8217;t have all the answers. Yeah, I think that&#8217;s that&#8217;s a good<br \/>\npoint. I think going back to the unilateral sport by nature<br \/>\nis is imbalanced. And you get. I mean, just I think<br \/>\nI really like what you said that, you know, bilaterals great and everything. But there are some consequences<br \/>\nto that. And it seems like with the unilateral training, you can kind of<br \/>\nyou can address compensation&#8217;s, which you talked a little bit about today. And though<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll see you can you can evaluate, engage, maybe where there is a conversation, a weakness<br \/>\nthat if you don&#8217;t if you&#8217;re doing it with the bilat or move, you just maybe increase that.<br \/>\nYeah. Well, I think the brain likes two things. I think it likes targets,<br \/>\nnumber one, and complex movements. Number two. So if we&#8217;re not doing either one of those<br \/>\nthings, I don&#8217;t think we are getting the most out of what our brain can give us back<br \/>\nfor sports performance. And what I mean by a target is and I tell people is if you&#8217;re a<br \/>\npower clean person, if that&#8217;s your philosophy, when we power<br \/>\nclean, there&#8217;s not an end game. It&#8217;s a technique. It&#8217;s a skill. But if I<br \/>\npicked my foot up and put it in a certain area, that&#8217;s a skill and a target<br \/>\nthat I have to get to. So now the brain&#8217;s gone. Mm hmm. I&#8217;m a little bit more interested in the<br \/>\nend product here. So if my foot ends up on a wall where there&#8217;s an X<br \/>\nin my hips are in the right position, that it would look like when I was running. Now that becomes<br \/>\na little bit more specific to the brain. It has a target. And now from a motor learning<br \/>\nstandpoint, if I learn how to do that, I&#8217;ve also put my hips in the right position to be<br \/>\na better runner. So so targets are one complex movements or another.<br \/>\nWe have to be able to give our brain complex movements something new, something novel,<br \/>\na new stimulus, or else it becomes lazy, becomes lazy. And we&#8217;ve seen<br \/>\nfriends, Bosch, you know, address the targets. Right. Even if you&#8217;re going to utilize a power going absolutely<br \/>\nnuts. That&#8217;s not too new. Kind of like you were saying, coach, but certainly<br \/>\nit feels like we&#8217;re progressing in that manner, kind of like you said and circling back to the beginning.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s just the way things are starting to trend. You know, I hear friends talk about<br \/>\nCoke, contractions of the spine. I&#8217;ll wind it back even deeper, saying that when<br \/>\nyou when you stimulate the vestibular system, you&#8217;re forcing those poor spinal<br \/>\nmuscles of the spine to turn on. So now you&#8217;re actually doing brain training. I don&#8217;t think he explains<br \/>\nit that way. He&#8217;s more into the motor learning aspect of it and the targets fight. But that&#8217;s still<br \/>\nbrain activation because your brain has to be able to turn those spinal<br \/>\nspinal muscles on to create stability before it&#8217;s going to let go. Any force in your lower back, right.<br \/>\nRight. And that&#8217;s the brain essentially limiting our outputs, right. Based<br \/>\non what it thinks is safer threats. It&#8217;s all about threats. Yeah.<br \/>\nOne thing I&#8217;m Shargel with with the bilateral training versus unilateral is I work<br \/>\nwith sport like rowing where it&#8217;s kind of bilateral in nature. Inside<br \/>\nyou fight with myself as far as well. OK. They&#8217;re gonna do this many bilateral or hip extensions every single<br \/>\nday. How much unilateral training should I do? What offsets the brain isn&#8217;t even<br \/>\neven worth putting time in to do that because I don&#8217;t know. You know, exactly what I&#8217;m doing is right. Exactly.<br \/>\nHelping, but. Well, I think one of the things you can do is test it. Muscle test it. All right. So<br \/>\nif they&#8217;re if they&#8217;re rowing in your muscle testing and again, it&#8217;s not just a muscle test to see how strong<br \/>\nyou are, it&#8217;s more of a neural response of. Are they engaging? Are they locking out?<br \/>\nSo if you just reverse the hands, that might, you know, in some of the let&#8217;s<br \/>\nsay of the five minutes you&#8217;re rowing, a minute of it is reversed hands. That might be enough.<br \/>\nWe build into our football program where the kids come in for recovery. They take their shoes<br \/>\noff. They&#8217;re walking in grass. And I tell them purposeful walking where they&#8217;re going to leave their heel on<br \/>\nthe ground as long as they possibly can in their gait cycle to lengthen those hip flexors out<br \/>\nthat we&#8217;ve had. SHORTEN Well, they&#8217;re sitting in school. So we&#8217;re killing two birds with one stone. We&#8217;re gaining electrons<br \/>\nfrom the ground by grounding, strengthening our feet. And we&#8217;re walking with a purpose<br \/>\nbecause now if I&#8217;m taking a thousand steps, that&#8217;s 1000 steps of a longer<br \/>\nhip flexor and I tricked him. That&#8217;s big time.<br \/>\nYeah, I kind of wanted to I&#8217;m just out of curiosity, I want to change gears this for a second<br \/>\nbecause I want to circle back to some things he said earlier. When you&#8217;re introducing yourself,<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re a hit coach. And that in you own your own business.<br \/>\nI do. You said you opened up to did so<br \/>\njust as as a professional. When I heard you say that that was just<br \/>\na daunting task. When you just being hit coach and then having your own any you travel and speak.<br \/>\nCan you just talk a little bit? What&#8217;s it like being a head coach? And then obviously you&#8217;re not to<br \/>\nBernero, you know, get this kind of side to you. I think a lot of coaches have this side to him.<br \/>\nHow do you do that? What kind of would it come from? Well, I I&#8217;m I&#8217;m blessed because the first for two different<br \/>\nreasons. Number one, I have great people all around me. I&#8217;ve had the opportunity to hire<br \/>\nsome great people like my staff. And the football program is it&#8217;s got to be tops in New York State. I mean,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve got guys that have won state championships, two young coaches who have that fire.<br \/>\nSo when you in order to be a great leader, I think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s servant<br \/>\nleadership makes you a leader. And so you have to be able to give back to the people that are helping you.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;ve I&#8217;ve been blessed with that. The second part of that, in terms of running, running the businesses,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve been blessed because I don&#8217;t I&#8217;m not a business man. I love to train. I love<br \/>\nto watch people get stronger and faster. It&#8217;s been a passion. And when it started, all it did was<br \/>\nfund my research. Now, if I&#8217;m lucky enough, where I can bring in a little bit of an income,<br \/>\nbut it&#8217;s nowhere near where it should be. But just because I&#8217;ll be see<br \/>\nif I can do it. It&#8217;s like cheating. I love it. You don&#8217;t have to pay me to do it. I love it.<br \/>\nAnd the two guys that are running it now are just as vested. And it&#8217;s awesome<br \/>\nto see any plan to write a book in the future or do anything like that. Yeah, I think Carl and I are<br \/>\ngoing to write a book. Well, well, we got do we have that on record and we got it recorded if<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re gonna hold you to it. Yeah. I&#8217;ve I&#8217;ve always thought I&#8217;m<br \/>\nnot a good writer. I&#8217;m a doer. Like I want to I want to be in the weight room. I want<br \/>\nI want to be involved in it. But I always wanted someone that maybe<br \/>\njust kind of jot down things as I&#8217;m talking, because as it comes out, sometimes I don&#8217;t even understand what I&#8217;m saying.<br \/>\nIt just comes out. But let&#8217;s go. That&#8217;s pretty, pretty amazing. He&#8217;s the head coach<br \/>\nand does. That&#8217;s crazy. You know, you&#8217;re not bored. Yeah, no. And the other part about it, too, is<br \/>\na lot of times in coaching, you sacrifice a lot of family stuff. I&#8217;m able to have my son with me. A lot<br \/>\nof times during that coaching. And that&#8217;s a really big deal for me. Like he can come to practice. He comes<br \/>\nto the games. He&#8217;s getting involved in the training part of it. And like coming<br \/>\nout here, he was so excited that I was coming out here because of<br \/>\nColt McCoy. And I just couldn&#8217;t tell you what take over. That&#8217;s<br \/>\nright. The eyes of Texas are upon. Always. Coach, always. One<br \/>\ncool thing about why we brought you down here is, again, we talked about it like it&#8217;s your<br \/>\nown unique approach to training. Right. It&#8217;s understanding neurology. It&#8217;s understanding how the brain,<br \/>\nat the end of the day, ultimately affects performance. And so I only say that to say we&#8217;re<br \/>\nexcited and we&#8217;re keep our years to the ground, if you do start writing a book, whether it be with Calor or<br \/>\nMatt Van [INAUDIBLE]. But I think. I mean, we&#8217;ve talked about it like that&#8217;s that&#8217;s kind of the<br \/>\nway or the realm that our field is trending. Yeah. Is a brain based. I mean,<br \/>\nit is, you know, really. And like I said, I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to be able to, you know.<br \/>\nSit with a lot of great minds. I mean, I look at a guy like Hal Dietz, I mean, he&#8217;s<br \/>\noff the charts. I think he&#8217;s one of the best in the business. And it&#8217;s<br \/>\nit&#8217;s awesome to hear people speak like I&#8217;m looking forward to listening to the speakers tomorrow.<br \/>\nIt was wonderful to come into your weight room today and watch your staff go to work. I mean,<br \/>\nyou can learn something everywhere you go and learn something everywhere you go. Absolutely.<br \/>\nWell, just here you offer your well, read any. So<br \/>\nthere&#8217;s some bookworms, I&#8217;m sure, listening research junk out there. Professional development.<br \/>\nCan you give us anything? Books, courses? What would you recommend? Kind of<br \/>\none of the courses that I that I took that I think is a game changer is is John Imes<br \/>\nand his primal reflex release technique. It basically deals with Sherrington<br \/>\nlove or supercool inhibition. And it&#8217;s pretty powerful how we can use it<br \/>\nin the weight room and the therapy table. It&#8217;s that was profound. And tomorrow,<br \/>\nin part of my my seminar speech, I&#8217;ll talk about the five things that really impacted<br \/>\nme as a coach. One of them was being able to sit down with Dr. Peter, weigh in<br \/>\nand listen to his research on human locomotion and<br \/>\nhaving an opportunity to speak with some of these great minds that aren&#8217;t necessarily in, quote<br \/>\nunquote, the strength and conditioning field. I used to think<br \/>\nwhen I was younger. Oh, therapy. You know, they&#8217;re gonna balance on a Swiss ball. I can&#8217;t<br \/>\nmake that happen in my weight room. So I shut it off to not listening.<br \/>\nAnd then I started thinking, you know what? Let me listen and see if I can gain something to help<br \/>\nwhat I do. And lo and behold, it&#8217;s all about a filter. Yeah. David EPSTEIN, if you&#8217;ve heard of that<br \/>\nauthor, he just finished a book that came out called Range. He says, basically,<br \/>\nthe book you just said in a nutshell that if you want to find answers to whatever you&#8217;re doing,<br \/>\nyour field or whatever, don&#8217;t stay in your don&#8217;t stay in that one. You got to broaden<br \/>\nthat range. You have to find creative solutions and answers to problems.<br \/>\nDid you have within your contact? Right. I&#8217;ve had medical doctors come in<br \/>\nand we&#8217;ll do some reflex stuff and they&#8217;re like, this is simple. And like, you&#8217;re<br \/>\na medical doctor. How did you not know that I have this? And they&#8217;re like, well, that&#8217;s not what we do. What we do is we<br \/>\nhave gone mainstream. So instead, like and then it but if you<br \/>\ntake a look at some of the people who created some of these systems, they&#8217;re so brilliant and so passionate<br \/>\nthat they come off and people look at you and go, oh, I&#8217;m not doing that. That&#8217;s crazy.<br \/>\nBut they have something good. I can&#8217;t tell how many times I was at a lecture and people would walk out. Strength coaches<br \/>\nwill walk right out of a lecture because somebody said something that was so unbelievably<br \/>\nblowing people away and different that that can&#8217;t be true and walk out. Well, they missed the last part<br \/>\nof it because the last part was the best part. I&#8217;m not going to use the first part. I use the last part. So there&#8217;s<br \/>\nalways something to learn. Whether you hate something or not. You can learn.<br \/>\nYeah. I mean, here at Texas, we have like you say, we have athletic trainers, behavior, health, nutritionist,<br \/>\nstrength, conditioning coaches, sports science. And while we may all have our jobs within<br \/>\nthose platforms, I think all of us kind of owe it to ourselves and each other and the athletes<br \/>\nwe serve. And that&#8217;s our jobs blend kind of in each of those. No question.<br \/>\nAren&#8217;t Barela covers all five of those. And so, you know, you may specialize in just one of them, but<br \/>\nwhatever you are doing, it affects the other four. You know, however you end up dividing it, even in<br \/>\nthe medical community, like if you&#8217;re talking about anatomy trains the book. Right. They&#8217;ll be<br \/>\nphysicians who will say, OK. This is fash. Yes. Somebody will say,<br \/>\nwell, there&#8217;s a bio electric charge around that fascist somebody else. Well, that&#8217;s a Meridien. Well, somebody<br \/>\nwill say that&#8217;s a reflex. It&#8217;s all the sense of. Yeah, but somebody is explaining it differently.<br \/>\nSomebody from Eastern Europe is going to talk differently about a Meridien Chinese mooradian than the<br \/>\nactual Chinese acupuncturists. Right. So it&#8217;s not wrong. It&#8217;s<br \/>\njust a different way they explain it. And if it gets a result, that&#8217;s what you gotta worry about.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s what you gotta think about. And that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve got to try to make fit into what you do. Yeah. Nothing, too.<br \/>\nYou know, technology is such a it&#8217;s such a that&#8217;s the buzz. Now I have buy cell<br \/>\nin every gadget under the sun. And so I think one of the from what I&#8217;ve<br \/>\nseen, the positive, you can quantify everything now, sleep, hydration,<br \/>\nyour fatigues or you can quantify everything, forced production absorption. So now<br \/>\nwhen you can you can look at all that on a piece of paper of what&#8217;s improving, what&#8217;s not. Now you&#8217;re gonna<br \/>\nsearch for different answers because. The old methods that this<br \/>\nis what&#8217;s always worked often is not getting the results that we want, so it&#8217;s cause I feel like it&#8217;s causing<br \/>\npeople to go a little deeper and be more open minded to different solutions. That&#8217;s outside the box again,<br \/>\nbecause you have to have answers. You have to be able to explain what&#8217;s happening physiologically. And,<br \/>\nyou know, sometimes people have a hard time understanding how can an isometric lunge<br \/>\nwhen you&#8217;ve never run before? Make you faster? Well, if the reflex arcs are correct and you are in<br \/>\nthe right position, you will get faster. Means<br \/>\nbroadening your horizons, right? It&#8217;s getting out of that tunnel vision is one thing, as you can<br \/>\nsee with interns. I know I saw it myself as a young coaches. You grow up under one system or<br \/>\none philosophy. You think, oh, that&#8217;s the way you go to a new experience, you know, shoot. No, that&#8217;s the<br \/>\nway. And you soon learn usually the hard way that, again, everything is<br \/>\nconnected. And there&#8217;s something you can take from each experience, from each person who&#8217;s presenting on something,<br \/>\nfrom each person and their expertise. It&#8217;s just all about your filter. Yeah. I tell people the story all<br \/>\nthe time. When I spent some time with Mel MSF before he passed. I go into his basement<br \/>\nprobably in my middle 20s, thought I knew it all. And he&#8217;s<br \/>\ntalking. I&#8217;m listening and he&#8217;s he&#8217;s brilliant. I mean, he could speak and make your head spin.<br \/>\nSo he said, well, what&#8217;s your passion? What&#8217;s your interest in making people fast and get him really strong? Is it okay?<br \/>\nGreat. He goes, do you do any aerobics work? I&#8217;m like, non-believing.<br \/>\nHe goes, okay. He goes, I want you to look at my library of books I have. So you going to his basement<br \/>\nand it was this vast. He had books from everywhere. So he goes each side<br \/>\nof the wall, had a different philosophy on the court, whereas all the speed stuff he goes that&#8217;s<br \/>\non that wall right over there, all the Russian research, all the stuff. My God, that&#8217;s awesome. You can go on over there. You&#8217;re<br \/>\ngoing over here. I go everywhere. So I pull out the first book. And it was a cross country book.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m like, that&#8217;s great. I don&#8217;t want to do this. He&#8217;s like, I don&#8217;t care what you want to do. You&#8217;re going to understand<br \/>\nwhy you don&#8217;t like that right before you tell me everything that&#8217;s bad about it.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m like. Then he started saying, you could do this in your relationships in the middle of an argument.<br \/>\nSwitch sides and argue for the other person and then see what happens. And I&#8217;m like,<br \/>\nboy, that&#8217;s empathy right there. Put yourself in someone else&#8217;s shoes. Just seeing the argument or<br \/>\ndiscussion from a different person. Then he goes, How are you truly going to master knowing anything about power and speed if<br \/>\nyou don&#8217;t know everything about why you don&#8217;t do the other stuff? Good point.<br \/>\nSo I sat in that basement and studied for a while. What a great lesson.<br \/>\nGreat story. What would you say to young coaches coming up today? That advice<br \/>\nwould you give, you know, your history and just because the field is changing. Don&#8217;t think that the guys<br \/>\nwho started stuff and have great ideas and back in the day go spend some time<br \/>\nwith them because you&#8217;ll learn a lot about what&#8217;s coming around now like we&#8217;re talking about. Isometrics<br \/>\nright now. All right. The Russians were talking about that in the early 60s.<br \/>\nAnd now all of a sudden people are going isometrics are. Well, the Russians come back around. It&#8217;ll come back around. So<br \/>\nso go after the people that have been in the business for a while and just listen to him, even though you might not have the same<br \/>\nphilosophy because you just got out of school and you know everything. Listen to them. They will.<br \/>\nEnlighten you. Yeah. One thing one common question I get from interns is when they read all of our staff<br \/>\nbios, they&#8217;ll see that I interned in her kallaugher. Seven, eight months and, you know, talk to me<br \/>\nabout eccentrics and isometrics. And I always try to stop them and say, look, Kelp did an<br \/>\namazing job popularising you nice metrics, but they&#8217;ve been around forever. Right.<br \/>\nSo I&#8217;m like, you want to start anywhere? There&#8217;s plenty of stuff that the Russians were doing 50 years ago.<br \/>\nEven volume control of how we how we self-regulate in how<br \/>\nmany sets of reps we do based off the performance. I still use the stuff. I don&#8217;t<br \/>\nknow if you guys have it in for him. Yeah. I mean, I still use that stuff<br \/>\nwith my tracting. Like how can you manage volume? How do I know for a 10th grade kid<br \/>\ncan run 20 sprints and the senior can run five sprints? Well their time tells me when they can&#8217;t run<br \/>\nfast anymore, they&#8217;re done. Could be five sets, could be 20. I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m not that smart to figure that out.<br \/>\nSo we will we will control volume that way. Still, that&#8217;s years old. Yeah. And<br \/>\nthe best part of that, I think, is that there wasn&#8217;t all the new fancy technology when it was discovered he was a stop<br \/>\nwatching and then Karl was talking about it today. Yeah, right. So I mean, you<br \/>\nknow, Listento who&#8217;s like Louis Simmons. I learned so much from him. I don&#8217;t do a lot of the<br \/>\nstuff that he does, but I certainly learned a lot from him. Yeah, I learned about the grind.<br \/>\nThat guy does a miss days of lifting. He just doesn&#8217;t. He does the same thing every day.<br \/>\nI respect that. Yeah. Why? So barbell posted the other day on Instagram, the recovery day. And<br \/>\nI was looking at it like, man, I&#8217;d be shot doing that. Yeah, it was basically no lift. Yeah.<br \/>\nYeah, it was. It was a big bodybuilding lift. Yeah, he that&#8217;s a different breed.<br \/>\nBut again, you can learn something from everybody. Absolutely. Coach, what kind of.<br \/>\nI know you, Debbie. Relighting books you&#8217;ve been reading lately. Any recommendations? It&#8217;s<br \/>\nnot more. It&#8217;s not as much about books as it is about people I study. Like the guy that&#8217;s intriguing<br \/>\nme now is Dr. Jack Cruz. I don&#8217;t know if you guys have heard of Dr. Jack Cruz. Look him like<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s that he&#8217;s more on the nutritional side. He&#8217;s a brain neurosurgeon,<br \/>\nbut he&#8217;s kind of figured out the whole diet thing. And he&#8217;s got some pretty profound<br \/>\nideas and he&#8217;s off the charts. Brilliant to the point, again, where those<br \/>\ntypes of people make a lot of people angry because it challenges their belief systems. But<br \/>\nlove listening to him talk and read his stuff. So that&#8217;s kind of where I go. And then you<br \/>\nwork your way back. The guy&#8217;s a neurosurgeon, so he knows certain things about the brain. What<br \/>\nhappens when you eat certain foods? Chemicals. And here we go.<br \/>\nAnd now we trace it all back to performance. And if a person can get in and out of a car pain free<br \/>\nor a person is trying to jump forty three inches, there&#8217;s no difference to me. To me, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s about performance.<br \/>\nVery true, true, Jack. Cruz, that was his name. Yeah. Dr. Jack Cruz. Look at me. He&#8217;s the<br \/>\nman. He&#8217;s the man. Anything else? Chance in the day?<br \/>\nI feel like we could talk for hours, but that&#8217;s all I got right now. Coach, I appreciate your time coming to visit<br \/>\nwith us today. Been awesome. So if any of our listeners do want to connect with you<br \/>\nor reach out to you. Do you have any contact information and you would be willing to share? Yeah, they<br \/>\ncan. They can hang up on our Instagram page. I think it&#8217;s WJF one.<br \/>\nWe have a Facebook page. I have a personal Facebook. So we&#8217;re we&#8217;re all over the Internet.<br \/>\nNever been a big marketing guy. No. You know, my rule was when I started training and athletes<br \/>\nwas if the father or mother calls me three times, leaves me a message three times,<br \/>\nthen I&#8217;ll call him back, because I know that they&#8217;re that serious about training. They call me once<br \/>\nand they never call back. They never wanted to train anyways through. You got to. Yeah, you do. Got to be persistent<br \/>\nfor sure. We&#8217;ll call Coach Dan. It has been a absolute pleasure<br \/>\ndoing this podcast today. Interview with you. And thank you for making time. Coach Heinsohn, thank you for<br \/>\nmaking the connection. Yes, sir. You are the man. So, yes, sir. I heard Callon in podcasts. Drop<br \/>\nyour name. Anytime. Cal does that. I&#8217;ve learned over the years that it&#8217;s probably pretty important<br \/>\nresource. So it took me a little bit to find. Yeah. Awesome. When I first asked Matt VanDyke<br \/>\nand Sandino Dan Victor Azeez like I have no idea who that is. A few weeks later, after going to the<br \/>\nwhat is the TFSA? Oh, yeah, yeah. The Shikaki came back niggaz. I know who Dan Victor is and<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s going to come visit. And we&#8217;re just glad that you made the trip to Austin. So thanks for the invite. It&#8217;s been awesome.<br \/>\nSo we&#8217;re gonna get you some Tex Mex tonight. I think I think that&#8217;s accurate. And we got get him bargaining, but we&#8217;re<br \/>\ngetting out of here. But can you do it one time for can you do a hook him for his coat. Hook him hook a Muslim<br \/>\ntelcom coaches, a Longhorn fan. And we definitely that that&#8217;s even more special to have you here.<br \/>\nSo we thank you for your support of our programs here at Texas Inn. It&#8217;s been real. Co-chairperson,<br \/>\nthank you for joining us today. And that&#8217;s it from the team behind the team podcast. We<br \/>\nwill catch you on the next episode. Hook them horns.<br \/>\nThanks so much for tuning in and listening to this episode of The Team Behind the Teen podcast<br \/>\nfor future episodes, go to i-Tunes Spotify, Google Podcast or<br \/>\nStitcher. We definitely want to keep having great guests on the show and great content.<br \/>\nSo if you have a moment, please go to i-Tunes, leave a rating and review and let us know how we&#8217;re<br \/>\ndoing. I&#8217;m Donny, mate. 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