{"id":145,"date":"2019-06-05T00:00:15","date_gmt":"2019-06-05T00:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/policy-on-purpose\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=145"},"modified":"2020-07-20T04:04:27","modified_gmt":"2020-07-20T04:04:27","slug":"episode-21-yamiche-alcindor-white-house-correspondent-for-pbs-newshour-delivers-2019-graduation-remarks","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/policy-on-purpose\/podcast\/episode-21-yamiche-alcindor-white-house-correspondent-for-pbs-newshour-delivers-2019-graduation-remarks\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 21 \u2013 Yamiche Alcindor, White House correspondent for PBS NewsHour, delivers 2019 graduation remarks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before speaking to the LBJ School\u2019s class of 2019, PBS NewsHour\u2019s White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor joined Policy on Purpose to talk about the role and responsibility of the press when covering some of our world\u2019s most defining moments, and how to best balance humanity and objectiveness when covering difficult topics and stories.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Before speaking to the LBJ School\u2019s class of 2019, PBS NewsHour\u2019s White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor joined Policy on Purpose to talk about the role and responsibility of the press when covering some of our world\u2019s most defining moments, and how to best balance humanity and objectiveness when covering difficult topics and stories.","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","episode_type":"audio","audio_file":"http:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/policy-on-purpose\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2019\/05\/Policy-on-Purpose-Yamiche-Alcindor.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"34.84M","filesize_raw":"36537536","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","itunes_episode_number":"","itunes_title":"","itunes_season_number":"","itunes_episode_type":""},"tags":[151,154,5,152,93,153,150,149],"categories":[],"series":[2],"class_list":{"0":"post-145","1":"podcast","2":"type-podcast","3":"status-publish","5":"tag-alcindor","6":"tag-correspondent","7":"tag-lbj","8":"tag-newshour","9":"tag-pbs","10":"tag-white-house","11":"tag-yamiche","12":"tag-yamiche-alcindor","13":"series-policy-on-purpose","14":"entry"},"acf":{"related_episodes":"","hosts":[{"ID":661,"post_author":"38","post_date":"2020-07-16 19:11:46","post_date_gmt":"2020-07-16 19:11:46","post_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Angela Evans became dean of the LBJ School of Public Affairs in 2016. She joined the LBJ School as a clinical professor of the practice of public policy after 40 years in public service to the U.S. Congress. During the last 13 of these years, she was the deputy director of the Congressional Research Service, leading major organizational changes that enhanced the research capacity of the service and improved the effectiveness of critical operations. Among her achievements were the creation of unique management positions to lead the service\u2019s research and analysis, the development and implementation of an agency-wide research agenda directly aligned with the legislative deliberations of Congress, the introduction of performance standards to evaluate the success of the service, the development of a performance assessment system for service staffers, and the creation of the first federally funded succession plan to address the potential retirement of a large cohort of the workforce. Professor Evans has been the recipient of research awards including grants from the Policy Research Institute, the National Science Foundation and the Dirksen Congressional Center. She has been honored with the Texas Exes Teaching Award and the LBJ School accolades of Most Valuable Class, Most Helpful Professor to Students and Best New Professor.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->","post_title":"Angela Evans","post_excerpt":"","post_status":"publish","comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","post_password":"","post_name":"angela-evans","to_ping":"","pinged":"","post_modified":"2021-01-13 10:57:35","post_modified_gmt":"2021-01-13 16:57:35","post_content_filtered":"","post_parent":0,"guid":"http:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/policy-on-purpose\/?post_type=speaker&#038;p=661","menu_order":0,"post_type":"speaker","post_mime_type":"","comment_count":"0","filter":"raw"}],"guests":[{"ID":757,"post_author":"43","post_date":"2020-07-20 03:37:14","post_date_gmt":"2020-07-20 03:37:14","post_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Yamiche Alcindor is the White House correspondent for the PBS NewsHour, a role she began in January 2018. 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A podcast produced by the LBJ School of Public<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-7\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin. We take you behind the scenes of policy<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-13\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">with the people who helped shape it. For more, visit LBJ. Don&#8217;t you, Texas?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-20\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Hello, everyone. This is Angela Evans, I&#8217;m the dean of the LBJ School and this is our podcast<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-26\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">policy on purpose. And I am so pleased today to welcome Hamish Alcindor, who<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-31\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is White House correspondent for PBS. And I watch her and she&#8217;s been here<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-36\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">at the school at the race summit. And now I have her all to myself for a few minutes before she&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-41\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">going to give our commencement address at our 2019 graduation. So welcome, Munish.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:41<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-46\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Yes. Thanks so much for having me. I&#8217;m really, really excited to be here. Good. Well, it means you have quite<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:46<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-51\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">a career for such a young person. You know, I keep thinking about and it seems like very early on you had this<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:51<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-56\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">passion for news when you were 16, when you went to the Miami Herald and then you were at The New York<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">0:56<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-61\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Times, USA Today, Seattle Times. You know, you do you did a lot in terms of thinking about your<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:01<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-66\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">journalistic background and a lot of different areas of the country covering a lot of different stories,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:06<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-72\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">some of them very emotional stories. We can get into that a little bit. But what I wanted to talk about<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:12<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-77\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is this. We use this podcast basically for our students or people who are thinking of getting<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:17<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-82\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">into public policy so they can hear people who have chosen to go into a public sector. Yours<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:22<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-87\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is public. You know, public television and also yours is thinking about how do you hold<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:27<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-92\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">policy people accountable. So I want you to think about is our students go into<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:32<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-98\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">public policy and as they try to get ahead in there and get into lead positions where their voices<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:38<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-103\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are heard. What do you want them to know about the role of the free press in their<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:43<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-108\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in their world? What I want people to know about the free press and about the media is that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:48<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-113\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">we&#8217;re really supposed to be a tool to hold people accountable. I always remind people that my job is in the<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:53<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-118\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Constitution, that it&#8217;s a it really is, in my mind, a fourth branch of government because<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">1:58<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-123\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">the founders of this country understood that a free media, free press was going to be critical to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-128\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">holding our democracy accountable and to really our democracy flourishing. So<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-134\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think that when I talk to policymakers, it&#8217;s good to me to have talked to people who are open, who<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:14<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-139\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">talk to me about how they&#8217;re making these decisions that aren&#8217;t really trying to, in some ways hide from the media, that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:19<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-144\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really are trying to put the challenges and successes of their public policy on the table.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:24<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-149\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I love interviewing people that can say, look, we did this right. We did this wrong. We tried this policy. It<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-154\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">didn&#8217;t work. We had this intention going in. It didn&#8217;t work. We can think about the 1994 crime<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:34<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-160\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">bill. There are people who went into that crime bill thinking this is going to really solve the issues<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:40<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-165\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of the crack epidemic and these communities are being ravaged. And that was African-American<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:45<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-170\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">lawmakers and white lawmakers. And I think now, of course, we&#8217;re doing this 2019 thing where we&#8217;re<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-175\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">looking at the 1994 crime bill. And there are some people who are saying, yeah, that was still great, was I&#8217;m happy with<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">2:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-180\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it. And then there are people are saying, you know what? We had unintended consequences. We didn&#8217;t realize that we were going to end up<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-185\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">with mass incarceration and disproportionate number of African-Americans in prison. So I think those<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-190\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are the kind of people that I like to interview, people who can be introspective and talk about the<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-195\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">intention and and the consequence. Well, this is great that you&#8217;re saying that, because that&#8217;s those<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-200\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are the voices we need to hear. But many times in the media, it&#8217;s the saludos<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-206\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">voice. And sometimes it&#8217;s not the most informed voice and sometimes it&#8217;s the voice. We did everything right<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-211\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and you&#8217;re wrong. So the idea that you can bring people who are critical about what&#8217;s going on and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-216\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">evaluate decisions and then recast those decisions. We we do those decisions,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-222\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">amend them. That&#8217;s really important. So how do you stay in touch with those people? Because I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a lot<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-227\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of folks who, you know, want your attention and want you to come and talk to them just because of your visibility<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-232\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and position. But how do you select those folks that you really want to talk to in that are your<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-237\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">trusted sources? What? I have a really big spreadsheet. You have a<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">3:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-242\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">lot of a lot of different sources that really goes back from the very beginning of my career. So I pretty<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-247\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">much have almost every single number of every person that I&#8217;ve interacted with. And it really comes down to what&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-253\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">going on at that moment. What story am I working on? I want to say I really don&#8217;t discard sources because<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-258\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">there are people whose who might call you up and say, OK, this is a story. And you realize actually that&#8217;s not really a story right<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-263\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">now. But let&#8217;s look down the line. So there are so many instances where people have called me up and said, you<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:23<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-268\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">know, you should be writing about this. And I end up writing what that subject in a different way six months later. So I think I really<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:28<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-274\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in most cases, I don&#8217;t really weed people out because I&#8217;m always putting people on a spreadsheet and thinking,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:34<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-279\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">OK, how can I get to this issue? So it&#8217;s really up to me about keeping in contact with people,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:39<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-284\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">but also keeping in contact with people on the ground. There&#8217;s the people that want your attention that that are<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-289\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">obviously going to be emailing you and calling you. But I&#8217;m also very interested in the people on the ground that aren&#8217;t calling<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-294\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">you, the communities that don&#8217;t have the fancy offices and the PR team to speak<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-299\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">with you. There are the people that are maybe someone who&#8217;s running a homeless shelter or someone<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">4:59<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-305\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">who is working on domestic violence issues or someone who&#8217;s working with sex workers. There are all these different people<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-310\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that maybe don&#8217;t have the same machines to get in touch with national media that we as reporters should be seeking<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-315\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">out. Well, I&#8217;ve noticed, too, in your career, you&#8217;ve done that, you know, so. When you were talking about FAMM,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-320\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">when we were talking about family separation, you actually went to the border and you wanted to, you know, talk to the people<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-326\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that were affected. You know, you made the time to have the human story. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s so remarkable about<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-331\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">you. You have the human element of a lot of your stories and how those intersect with politics and the<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-336\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">policy scene. And so you have to also be in a place where you&#8217;re supported to do the type<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-341\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of work you know, that you they do give you time to go and actually get the human story. So you&#8217;ve covered things<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:41<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-346\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">like Sandy Hook and Trayvon Martin. You know, I mean, it&#8217;s just really, really you get down and you&#8217;ve<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:46<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-351\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">got to talk to the people. So in all of the different arenas that you&#8217;ve been in,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:51<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-357\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">have you felt that you&#8217;ve landed in places you&#8217;ve given you the flexibility to go and explore, you know,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">5:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-362\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">the human side of the story and not just let it go until they see what you can come up with?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-367\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I feel very fortunate, very blessed as a Catholic, I&#8217;ll say, to really feel like<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-372\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I&#8217;ve landed at places where people said, we&#8217;re hiring you because we understand that you want to give a voice<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:12<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-378\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to people. We hired you because we understand if we put you on the congressional beat, you&#8217;re still going to want to be talking<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-383\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to people on the ground that if you&#8217;re at the White House, you&#8217;re still going to want to go the border and talk to people. So I think that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:23<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-388\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">at all the places I&#8217;ve worked, including at PBS, I&#8217;ve been working with teams who say this is the way<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:28<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-393\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that we should cover this story. So I&#8217;ve been fortunate in that regard. That&#8217;s amazing<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-398\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">because some people don&#8217;t see that. And when you go back to history and a lot of times in history,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:38<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-404\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it&#8217;s the journalist who brought up all the problems that people haven&#8217;t really had time to think about or<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-409\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">actually authenticate. And you the journalists are often the ones who are identifying those problems early on<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-414\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and also bringing us enough of the story that people who really need to get in-depth, an expert to try to fix<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-419\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it do that. So people don&#8217;t always have that. They have that, as you say, blessed<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">6:59<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-425\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to do that. I want to talk to you a little bit about this, if you&#8217;re comfortable talking<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-430\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">about this. You covered, you know, Bernie Sanders in the last presidential election.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-435\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">And you you&#8217;ve also been covering President Trump. Can you tell us<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-441\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">how you&#8217;re feeling now? If you look at 16 2016 and you look at twenty nine, it&#8217;s only three years.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-446\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">But as you&#8217;re going into the 2020 year where people are trying to make a decision and really be<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-453\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really consider things about all the candidates. What do you see? Do you see any differences going into<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-458\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">this election year that you didn&#8217;t see like in 2015, for example? I mean, I think<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:38<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-463\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">the key difference is that people are not really underestimating people<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:43<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-468\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that maybe they don&#8217;t know about, and especially, of course, President Trump. When I came in in 2015 to cover<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:48<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-473\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Bernie Sanders, he was seen as kind of a candidate. That was a long shot. He was someone that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:53<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-478\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">was I was a cub reporter on politics so I could cover kind of Bernie Sanders. And<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">7:58<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-483\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">as a result, what we saw was Bernie Sanders obviously became this phenomenon where he was very successful,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-489\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">still got less votes than Hillary Clinton, but was someone who was, I think, a star,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:09<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-495\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">an unexpected star. And of course, on the Republican side, out of 17 people running, no one thought<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-500\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">most people, including the president, President Trump, didn&#8217;t think he was going to be the one to win. So I think this<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-505\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">time people are really recognizing that there could be a people to judge. There could be a<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:25<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-510\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">some other person. The mayor of Miramar is running. There could be so many other people that could come out<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:30<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-515\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of nowhere. So I think that people are getting a little bit smarter about that. And people are getting out of the prediction game.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:35<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-520\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think this is the most of the reporters that I know aren&#8217;t trying to predict. Oh, Joe Biden&#8217;s definitely. I mean, the front<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:40<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-525\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">runner, because we now know that Jeb Bush was about to be the front runner and we all saw what happened there. So<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:45<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-530\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think that people are trying think thinking more critically about this. I also want to say<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-535\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that I think as a reporter, when President Obama got elected, we talked a lot and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">8:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-540\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">wrote a lot as reporters about kind of this. Some people said the post-racial America, which was never<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-546\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">something I ever used. But I think there is this idea that we did all, I think, as a country thing for<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:06<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-551\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">African-Americans in the White House and African-American families there. We have come somewhere. We&#8217;ve we&#8217;ve kind<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:11<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-556\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of move in. We&#8217;ve moved forward. And I think that over the 2016 election and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-561\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">now in the 2020 election, I think we&#8217;re more apt to look at what are still the racial divisions that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-566\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are really holding our country hostage. What are the things that that people are really fearful<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-571\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of for the future of America? So I think that question of what we want to be as Americans is even<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-576\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">more central in 2020 than it was in 2016. Do you find the electorate is more informed?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-582\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Like if you go when you cover and there&#8217;s a town hall meeting, there&#8217;s a big rally. Do you see people<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-587\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really listening critically and are they prepared to ask more substantive questions?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-593\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">And they did, because part of what we hear is people are more engaged now or they&#8217;re more aware anyway<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:53<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-598\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of what&#8217;s going on simply because of the environment, the political environment. Do you find that when you&#8217;re covering<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">9:58<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-603\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">stories, when you&#8217;re covering candidates? I think people have. I think people have<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-608\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">been knowledgeable. I think in 2016, I can remember going to Pennsylvania, going to a Trump rally, and this woman<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-613\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in Pennsylvania was talking to me in detail about the Iran nuclear deal. So I think.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-618\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">There are people who have been really knowledgeable of the issue, of course, is that, of course, more people<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-624\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are definitely more engaged. I think in twenty because of. I really think that might be the White House<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:24<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-629\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">by being something that&#8217;s on there, on their front pages and in their local news or on their TV and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-634\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">national news all the time. But there&#8217;s this polarizing issue where people pick the news that they<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:34<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-639\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">want to watch. So if you&#8217;re watching one network, you that&#8217;s missed this. That is showing,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:39<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-644\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">frankly, misleading information that you might be someone who watches the news, thinks you&#8217;re informed, but actually<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-649\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is and isn&#8217;t correctly informed of the facts. You obviously have a president who has said there&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-654\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">fake news out there. And I said, you know, listen to what I&#8217;m telling you. And at times, he&#8217;s been misleading and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-659\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">frankly, lying. So there are I think more people are definitely engaged. I don&#8217;t know if people are more knowledgeable,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">10:59<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-665\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">because if you&#8217;re picking and choosing your news or going to other news, that maybe isn&#8217;t<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-670\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that is just news that is not portraying things accurately, that maybe you&#8217;re not any more knowledgeable.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-676\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">All right. That&#8217;s a very good point. Well, how do you grab those? How do you think that&#8217;s the group we need to grab<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-681\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in the sense of Leach least tried to talk to them about and have them look for PBS? Let&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-686\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">say, OK, how can we get them to watch PBS or listen to PBS?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-692\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">That&#8217;s that&#8217;s supposed to be a place where we&#8217;re talking about it is an objective and as neutral as you<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:32<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-697\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">can be or as bipartisan as you can be and, you know, working with information that&#8217;s authoritative information,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:37<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-702\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">trying to get different perspectives and experts, how do we get people to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-707\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">look at places like that, to go to those places to double check<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-712\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">what they&#8217;re thinking? I think that&#8217;s a big challenge. I think it&#8217;s a big challenge. I have to say,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-717\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">as a reporter, I don&#8217;t spend that much time thinking about, like, how am I going to get people to read this story or how am I going to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">11:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-723\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">get people to click on this tweet or how am I getting people to watch PBS? Because I think then you start getting<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-728\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">into you&#8217;re serving up what you think people want to watch. Yeah. Instead, for me, it&#8217;s how<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-733\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">do I report on things in a way with integrity that no matter what party you are, you<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-738\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">think, OK, this person really set out to just tell a story. I&#8217;ve interviewed Republicans and Democrats who are<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-743\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">nervous about what I was asking them during the Kavanaugh hearings or during some other controversy.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:23<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-749\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">People would be wary, very, very wary of talking about those topics. And then when they watch my pieces, most of the time<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-755\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">people say, oh, actually, you were very fair. And even if you were critical, even if there was, let&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:35<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-760\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">look at them. And you&#8217;re right. And you were putting tough questions to me. You&#8217;re still someone who I think is I&#8217;m doing your<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:40<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-765\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">job fairly. So I&#8217;ve interviewed the president, I should say. I&#8217;ve talked to the president since I asked<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:45<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-770\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">him questions rather than interviewing him. But in my interactions with him, I&#8217;ve<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-775\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">kept it very professional. And I&#8217;ve said, you know, here&#8217;s what it is. What about Middle-Class Tax Cuts? Because to me, what<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">12:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-780\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think is important is to really just bring people to information and not have such a personal,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-786\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think, investment in it. As reporters, my job is to be a professional witness. It&#8217;s not to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:06<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-791\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">insert myself, insert my opinions and try to get click bait, try to be flashy and<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:11<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-796\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">get people to follow me even. And all about my ego. I think it should be more. I think that that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-801\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that gets you into muddy waters and frankly, just isn&#8217;t a service to anyone in<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-806\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">this country. That&#8217;s exactly what we try to do. And I was going to say raise our students<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-811\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to do, because that&#8217;s the world they&#8217;re in. We want them to have. We don&#8217;t want them to have an opinion.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-816\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">We don&#8217;t want them to be advocates that are not informed advocates. You know, we want them to be able to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-821\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">talk both sides of an issue. Use authoritative information. And what you say, sometimes<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:41<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-827\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it just takes time for people to see you, to work with you and establish this kind<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-832\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of foundational relationships that they I can trust you meet. I know we may disagree,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-837\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">but I know she&#8217;s gonna be fair there. Just takes time. That&#8217;s not something you walk in the first day. And just because you&#8217;re<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">13:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-842\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and you either and journalist for a paper or you&#8217;re on a PBS news hour, that people assume that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-847\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">they have to have their personal relationship and it takes time. And that&#8217;s really<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-852\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">important. That&#8217;s very important. And I think I&#8217;ve been lucky at PBS to have really good<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:12<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-857\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">role models to do that. I mean, when I fill the lake when I fell was a mentor to me. She was<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:17<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-862\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">so about the facts and about really giving viewers a doing<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:22<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-867\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">a service to viewers. And now we have Judy Woodruff, of course, is now solo anchoring the show on PBS<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:27<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-872\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">News Hour. And she&#8217;s someone who is also setting an example, watching her interviews. And luckily,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:32<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-877\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I&#8217;m someone who Judy can if I&#8217;m doing a big interview. She&#8217;ll look at my questions with me and talk through.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:37<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-883\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">How do you want to get this interview? What do you want to get out of this interview? And I think that that&#8217;s critical to really<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:43<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-888\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">be learning from the generation that came before you, because there have been a lot of journalists who have been really doing this well<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:48<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-893\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">for a while. I&#8217;m a nation. You shouldn&#8217;t have to reinvent the wheel because there are really good<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:53<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-898\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and accurate journalists out there. Exactly. And finding good mentors and people that a good team, people,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">14:58<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-903\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">people you can work with, very essential. So choosing wisely, the next step in your career<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-908\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is also very important. You just done such an incredible job when I&#8217;m looking at your history.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-914\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">So I wanted to talk to you about the press corps. The White House<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:14<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-919\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">press corps, because people will be interested in that. So you&#8217;re there in the White House with the press corps. Tell<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:19<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-924\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">me if you can just give the people are listening as sort of bird&#8217;s eye view of what the environment<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:24<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-929\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is like there and how you work within that environment. Well, the environment is kind of at this<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-934\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">point, it&#8217;s sometimes chaotic because as people are watching the news, they know that<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:34<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-940\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">the things white the White House beat, I think, used to have a rhythm to it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:40<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-945\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I&#8217;m used to you know, there were briefings and then the president would come out some time and there was the front row<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:45<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-950\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">where these networks sit. And then we can we can kind of have this kind of formal back and forth<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-955\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">with the administration. What we have now is really a lot of chaotic, kind of one off in<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">15:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-960\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">one off conversations with with administration officials. So Sarah Sanders has it briefed<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-965\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in in months and instead certain, of course, being the White House press secretary. So instead,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-970\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">we have officials that are talking in the driveway who might take five or six minutes<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-976\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to talk to the press. Then we have the president who is actually really taking a lot of questions from reporters,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-981\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">even though he hasn&#8217;t done a formal briefing. What he has done has is have a lot of pool<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-986\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">sprays, which pool sprays are when the media comes in and they take pictures of the president maybe meeting<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-991\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">with someone. Yes. And then you can shout questions. And he often uses those times to become kind<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-996\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of mini press conferences. He also when he&#8217;s walking out on the lawn before<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1002\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">for my planning cover, President Obama. But most times people said President Obama never stopped to talk to the reporters<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1007\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in that setting, in that lawn setting, because he had just had a scheduled sit down.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1012\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Yes. Conference with someone. In this case, the president often talks when he&#8217;s walking to the helicopter<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1017\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to go to a trip. So there&#8217;s that chaotic side of it. But then I think there&#8217;s really a fellowship<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">16:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1023\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and a community with White House reporters, because we really realize that. And I think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1028\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">been a realization that&#8217;s become clearer and clearer as the time has gone on. We have to stick together,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1033\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">not so much that we have to be having some sort of shared agenda. But it&#8217;s really we we all want to be<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1038\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">asking questions of the administration. We all think that this administration owes the American people questions. We<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1043\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">are the representatives of the American people asking these questions. So I think that there is a<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:23<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1048\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">camaraderie there where people I think as much as we&#8217;re still competing with each other to get the best<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:28<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1053\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">stories. There&#8217;s also, I think, a real sense of community that people that we&#8217;re all in this together,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1059\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that we&#8217;re all trying to get the best stories, that we could all just be a little bit more gentle with each other. So<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:39<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1064\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and you&#8217;ve also probably why if you&#8217;ve watched the president be questioned, there are a lot of times where one<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1069\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">reporter from one outlet will ask a follow up question from another outlet that&#8217;s been really critical.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1074\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">And I think that in the beginning, people would say, well, why are they switching subjects? He didn&#8217;t even answer the first question.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1079\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">So I think a lot of reporters have also done that where I&#8217;ve if I get a question, I&#8217;ll say, OK. But what about this<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">17:59<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1084\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">question from ABC? You didn&#8217;t quite give us an answer there. And so I think that that&#8217;s<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:04<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1089\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really also been very critical. I&#8217;ve noticed that because I&#8217;ve. Because the first thing you&#8217;re saying when you&#8217;re really<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:09<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1094\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">answering questions on the fly, either you&#8217;re in the beginning of another, meaning that, you know, there&#8217;s all these microphones<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:14<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1100\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and people are just in in a room that&#8217;s about to meet and something else. Or when the president is walking out<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1105\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to the helicopter or or to a car or something, it&#8217;s like a quick question.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:25<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1110\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">And then he answers and he moves on. And but I&#8217;ve noticed lately that people are probing<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:30<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1115\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">more because in a press conference, you have to give and take. You can you can&#8217;t do follow up. If people are in<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:35<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1120\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">a room, it&#8217;s more of a intimate setting. So I was going to ask you about that. You just answered. It is like, you<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:40<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1125\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">know, having a country of people who together say there&#8217;s something that we need to get to. And if<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:45<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1130\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">you can&#8217;t get to it, I&#8217;m going to try to get to it as well. So it&#8217;s a very different way of operating off<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1135\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">in the White House. My guess is that the press corps. Well, I think that people I mean, there are also obvious<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">18:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1140\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">questions of the day that so if if if the president is sending hundreds<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1145\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of Erb&#8217;s are planning, maybe thinking of sending hundreds of thousands of troops to Iran and the poor first<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1151\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">person to ask about it, that&#8217;s probably also on three or four other. Right. Right. I think most White House reporters,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:11<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1156\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">we all write down our questions and sometimes our questions are very similar. If there was a still shooting in New Zealand<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1161\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">happened, then in the manifesto, the president was named. Everyone wanted to know what did the<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:21<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1166\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">president think about being named in a manifesto where someone went and killed people at a mosque?<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:26<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1171\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">How does the administration feel about that? So I think we have to as reporters there, I think very<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1177\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">obvious questions. So I think it is very important to be asking follow up questions. But the key<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:37<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1182\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">thing that I think people it&#8217;s sometimes I want to make sure people understand the press corps is<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1187\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">asking for briefings, not because it&#8217;s great to just kind of sit down and it&#8217;s easier to do our job. It&#8217;s because<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1192\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it&#8217;s so much harder to dodge questions when you&#8217;re sitting in a formal briefing<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1197\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">instead of the president saying, you know what, I don&#8217;t like that question. I&#8217;m going to move on or I&#8217;m going to act like I didn&#8217;t hear that, or I maybe<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">19:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1202\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really didn&#8217;t hear that question because of the choppers. The president is often saying, speak up because<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1207\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I can&#8217;t hear you over the helicopter. That&#8217;s also a real issue. So I think, yeah, there&#8217;s there&#8217;s there&#8217;s a<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1212\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">there&#8217;s a problem when you&#8217;re not doing an informal setting, which is why we have a briefing room. And I think why.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:12<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1218\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">In the past and administrations in the past have put that briefing room to use. Yes. Yes,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1224\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I have another question. You&#8217;ve covered a lot of defining moments, moments where<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:24<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1229\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">we can recall when we were hearing very hard news, for example, tragic tragedies<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1234\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">like Sandy Hook school shooting. So tell me about what goes on in your<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:34<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1239\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">head when you have a responsibility to tell these stories in there. NSA<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:39<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1244\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">is the intersection of human emotion and, you know, a policy perspective or a public<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1250\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">problem. How do you try to pass that out? I. I<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:50<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1255\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">really try to take the personal out of it. Newtown was probably one of<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">20:55<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1260\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">the hardest stories I ever covered, the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. And I think it&#8217;s because<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1266\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I don&#8217;t have kids. I&#8217;m not someone. It&#8217;s not like I was seeing my children in a shelter. And it was just a human<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:06<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1271\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">emotion to see six year olds in elementary school children going to funerals in<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:11<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1276\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">these little small suits. I think that it was just a really, really tough thing. So I remember doing those stories<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:16<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1282\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and writing those stories, but also taking time to cry in my car, frankly, taking time to feel those emotions.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:22<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1287\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I think you have to let yourself feel sorrow and feel sadness. And for me, that&#8217;s part of the<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:27<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1292\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">hopefully the humanity that I bring to reporting. I am not someone who is just gonna say, oh, I&#8217;m cold. And, you know, I<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:32<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1297\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">don&#8217;t know. I remember when I first started reporting, I had to really get a hold of myself because I would go to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:37<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1302\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">press conferences and cry if some person was missing or if some person had been murdered. And I had to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1307\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">realize, you can&#8217;t do that in public. You have to kind of hold it together, do the story. You owe<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:47<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1312\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">it to that family and to people all across the country to tell the stories with a clear mind. Yes. And then<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:52<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1317\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">afterwards, let yourself feel those emotions. So that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve been able to bounce it. And I&#8217;m lucky I&#8217;ve<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">21:57<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1323\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">just got married a year and a half ago. I think having my husband to talk, to, invent, to and to come home<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:03<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1328\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to has been a really critical part of covering these stories, but also covering this administration.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:08<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1333\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">When I feel like things are feeling personal, I can go home and talk to my husband about that.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:13<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1338\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">So I think that that&#8217;s been critical. So allow yourself to feel some of the things that are going on. Yeah. And I think that&#8217;s what comes<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:18<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1343\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">out in a lot of your story is the human side. But it comes in a context of a very balanced<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:23<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1348\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">narrative, which is what I really wanted to try to get with you today, is to understand how you do that. And a lot<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:28<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1353\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">of times of physicians do the same thing. You know, they&#8217;re they&#8217;re saving lives and they&#8217;re seeing things and they&#8217;re trying<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1358\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">to keep that human connection. But at the same time, step back and do their craft. And<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:38<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1364\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">I see this is the same thing with journalists need to be doing to say, I have a final question<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1369\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and it&#8217;s this. You said this. Sometimes you have to will yourself to your own talent.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1374\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">You have to kind of talk about yourself in your own skin and get people to see you,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">22:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1380\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">you know? What advice do you hear for our graduates and getting into an arena<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1385\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">where they have to appeal to a lot of different people, but yet they have to be true to<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:05<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1390\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">their core and who they are? I think that then it&#8217;s part of hopefully we&#8217;ll be a little bit about<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1395\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">what I see on commencement. It&#8217;s so critical to first know what your purpose is, to really<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1400\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">try to take time to understand what you think. You were put on this earth to do. And then once<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1405\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">you figure that out or even as you&#8217;re figuring that out, because that&#8217;s a lifelong journey and a lot of ways and your purpose can<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:25<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1411\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">change maybe at different times. But I think to figure out what your purposes. And then walk into those spaces<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:31<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1416\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">knowing that the universe is working thing outs, working things out for you. I really believe in telling<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:36<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1421\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">yourself out that the universe is on my side, that I am in this space because I belong in the space,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:41<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1426\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that I&#8217;m in this moment because this is where I should be. And don&#8217;t let anyone push you aside. I think<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:46<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1431\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">as a woman, as a person of color, I&#8217;ve had to push people aside at times. I&#8217;ve had to say, you know,<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:51<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1436\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">this person thinks I&#8217;m not qualified. This person thinks I&#8217;m not confident enough. Guess what? I can do this job because I know<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">23:56<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1442\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">that this is my purpose. And I think that that&#8217;s that&#8217;s critical. And that&#8217;s going to be, I think, what hopefully<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:02<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1447\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">people around this country should be thinking about as they walk into their purpose and they walk into<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:07<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1452\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">these spaces. I am so pleased because we were talking when you when we talked together<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:12<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1457\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">at the commencement. I&#8217;m saying the same thing. Not the way you&#8217;re saying it, but it&#8217;s about purpose<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:17<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1462\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and it&#8217;s about your drive and being courageous. And we talk about the school. We talk about being in the arena<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:22<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1468\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">like the Teddy Roosevelt speech that says you stepped in and you step in. You make a commitment<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:28<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1473\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and you&#8217;re not worried about what people say. You&#8217;re gonna get bloodied. You&#8217;re gonna fall down. You have to get up.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1478\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">And what I loved about that speech is people who don&#8217;t get in the arena don&#8217;t matter. Right.<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:38<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1483\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">Thank you so much, Jimmy. I really, really enjoyed speaking with you. And and I hope our audience<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:43<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1489\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">and listeners do the same. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Yes. This is Policy<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:49<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1494\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">on Purpose. A podcast produced by the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas<\/p>\n<div class=\"event-timestamp\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"event-time\">24:54<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"UserCreatedTranscript-1499\" class=\"index-event \">\n<div class=\"index-event-row\">\n<div class=\"event-text\" dir=\"auto\">at Austin. 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