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Brandon Jones, associate director for student learning and development in housing and dining, and we&#8217;re excited to have you listening to us.<\/p>\n<p>[0:00:30 Brandon Jones] All right, Welcome, everybody, Toe Live leadership, Innovation ventures and Entrepreneurship Podcast. I&#8217;m your host. Brandon Jones, associate director for student learning and development in university housing and dining at the University of Texas at Austin. And today we have a very, very, very special guest with us today. Her name is Suzette Munoz. She&#8217;s a English government, youth and community studies major, and we&#8217;re so excited toe. Have her here with us because let me tell you a little bit about Suzette. Suzette is a rock star on campus. She&#8217;s a student, a member of the first Gen Longhorns, she&#8217;s the diversity coordinator of the Senate of College Councils equity and inclusion policy director for student government. She&#8217;s a community advocate. She&#8217;s on the job action committee, and she&#8217;s also an r A ingested West. Shout out to our our raise out There was that was up. So without further ado I want a welcome you Sue set to the show. How you doing today, Susan?<\/p>\n<p>[0:01:34 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Hi, Dr. Jones. I&#8217;m doing good today. Thank you for that introduction<\/p>\n<p>[0:01:38 Brandon Jones] underfoot. NoDoz. Those in your accolades they out there for the world to see like no lie will probably put that in the show notes so that people could see I&#8217;m not making this up and trying to just gas you up or anything like that, like this is really so set is active and busy on is out there. And that&#8217;s one of the reasons why I wanted success on the show today. So, I mean, I want to read a quick statement that&#8217;s on the Diversity and Community Engagement website that gives a brief description about some of things Suzette has been up to lately. So this past July, interim President J. Hartzell released a statement detailing a plan to make the campus more diverse, an inclusive in response to a list of demands made by the Texas Student Athlete Advisory Committee and a coalition of students, faculty, staff and alumni, including members of the precursors who drafted the eight demands for transformative change. Suzette Moon Yose is one of several student members of the Senate of college councils who helped draft the list of demands, which called for a number of actions to make the campus more supportive off black and indigenous students of color. And although some demands were unmet, success believes the university is moving in the right direction and that in time more change will come. And I want to give to set the chance to kind of talk about her experience doing that. But before we do so soon, can you kind of tell people Ah, little bit about yourself a little bit about your major what year you are? Because I forgot to put that in the introduction. But also where you from?<\/p>\n<p>[0:03:13 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, Um, So I&#8217;m currently a junior. Um, So all those three major star enlisted in Bush government and you can community studies? Um, they&#8217;re like political science and education. Um, and they&#8217;re all like my passion projects throughout the year. I have added them as I have been going on happen here at U T. And a lot of them, like, kind of spread out after I became a no way so an orientation advisor. Um and I am a religion, originally from the Rio Grande Valley. Uh, the real gonna values, like, south of the border. Um, it&#8217;s the rial border. It&#8217;s very down south for than son Antonio. Um, I don&#8217;t know, um, and yeah, I immigrated here when I was, like, six years old, So I am originally from Mexico, but everybody Valley became my home that I grew up, and I hold it very close to home. Uh, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>[0:04:16 Brandon Jones] Well, thank you for sharing that with us today. So you&#8217;re also in our a Why don&#8217;t you? Since we were in the back to school season and students just moved back into the halls, tell us a little bit about what it&#8217;s been like to serve as an already. How long have you been in our A And what attracted you to that role?<\/p>\n<p>[0:04:33 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, Um, I haven&#8217;t even already my sophomore year so clearly And take people after their freshman year. Uh, I was looking up to get that first offer. Um, but yeah, I became a Mari just because, like, um, originally, like, I&#8217;m a low income student and like the aria job, like, has a lot of perks when it comes to those type of things. And I know people say like, Oh, I want to make a change and, like, be a change for the students. But like, the truth of the matter was when I applied, I was really worried about, like, What am I gonna do next year like, am I gonna be able to come back to you? T s I applied. So when I got the like, the job, I like cry because it was like, a huge relief. Now I do it for a very different reason. I actually, like, really loved the job, and I really love the role. Um, my residents, my first year kind of like changed my outlook on ah, lot of things and, like, yeah, I little I messaged him yesterday, like, two days ago, saying like, Oh, I&#8217;m archiving this group meal like a like, Just like a goodbye. They were like, No, don&#8217;t do it. Uh, renewable of all. Like we missed j two. We had a good live. Uh oh, yeah, I do. You have for very different reasons now, but that&#8217;s the truth. Um, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>[0:05:54 Brandon Jones] Wonderful. Thank you for sharing that with this. So let&#8217;s talk a little bit about some of the work that you did this past summer. As one of the, um, is one of the students won the student members of the Senate of college councils that helped craft that list of demands for president heart. So why don&#8217;t you tell us like, how you got involved with the Senate of college councils, but that also, what led to, um, your involvement with crafting the list of demands for the president?<\/p>\n<p>[0:06:22 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah. So I joined the senator Culture Councils myself. Warrior. I joined because of my friend who was also the official price earlier. He was like, You should really join, like you&#8217;re gonna love this or gets right for you. And, um, hold and behold, it was for me. Um, and I stayed there, but like recognizing that those spaces, like legislative, certain organizations are very elitist places in places that people just join to put onto the rest of maize, right? It&#8217;s also something that I have had to navigate and be like, Listen, we&#8217;re here to make, like, real change and, like, we&#8217;re here to option percent, like the marginalized and like under a prison communities on campus. Um, and that&#8217;s like why I became a diversity coordinator, which is like the rules kind of changing the status quo and like the environment inside of Senate. So as I step into that role, everything kind of change in March, right? Um, once the once a death of like so, I&#8217;ll start, like, first as an equity and inclusion policy of director and senior government. We really sustainment, right? We really sustained enough, like just, um, you know, condemning the office of the police and like, showing up for that community insurance, solidarity, um, and those that, like, it was a statement. It was like some asks to the community, and it had a lot of, like, positive, um, positive feedback from another from a lot of flexed organizations on campus. Like they started releasing their own statements and saying, like, we&#8217;re gonna do this like we&#8217;re gonna donate to these organizations like these, Not profits. So, like, that&#8217;s coming. What started the I think what started the ball rolling at UT, but then the Senate College Council. So that&#8217;s my other role. Um, we saw, like, the number. We started compiling all the numbers of organizations that started, like condemning this act like acts ox accident. And then, um, they And like you started seeing people actually like making demands and I&#8217;m making asks. And that&#8217;s kind of when the senator calls Trance was in like, um, a lot of like the president of Mastery Committee, which is people that meet with the president of monthly or weekly and actually like, Tell him what&#8217;s going on on campus. This, um, we all decided to just, like, compile all these us and all these demands that have been going on for years, Like the people for PM a movement has been going on for years. So that was one of the things that we added on to our eight demands.<\/p>\n<p>[0:09:09 Brandon Jones] So the audience what the people for PM A is?<\/p>\n<p>[0:09:12 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah. So the people perfume A were the people that were condemning the name the previous name of Robert Lee Moore of that building and how it&#8217;s an underground like student movement, which is like it&#8217;s really like cool once you learn about it, because they, um we had a conversation with them, and they kind of said that they went through the archives and like they look for, like, past lectures and like things that made like that just kind of pointed out how races this person and professor was. And like they said, Enough is enough. Like the university is not going to change the name. We&#8217;re going to change the name ourselves. So that&#8217;s kind of why. And like Professor Sum&#8217;s Selves, like changed the inter syllables like Put PM instead of Robert Lee Moore in their syllabus sometimes right? So, like this had been going on for years, Um so the center called Trump&#8217;s was kind of just like stepped up in, like compile. Are these us? But we also recognizing that a lot of these movements have already been happy and, like these ass, have been happening for years and like months, so not co opting that work. It was really something that we kind of tried to emphasize. And that&#8217;s what we would shout to a lot of like black organization on campus and black leaders for them to review and like out whatever they wanted and like take out whatever they want and like whatever they didn&#8217;t agree with. So that&#8217;s kind of how the A demands like, came out from a lot of like people poking like just looking at the wood Doc and being like, Oh, we should at this we should take out this we should at this and this and this And then, like it went into that, a demands that we see today, which is like a very comprehensive list that tackles not just student life but also academic life and, like really big changes that holistically make a really big change on campus. Thank<\/p>\n<p>[0:11:11 Brandon Jones] you for sharing that. I think that for the folks that are listening that are familiar with what&#8217;s going on, you know, I explained earlier that thesis the students, This was all student. Later, there was a student led effort to present this list of eight demands for transformative change to the president. And then there was the list of demands made by the Texas Student Athlete Advisory Committee on other groups and for the most part, the president. I mean, the statement is out there. People want to see it, But for the most part, I mean, I was so proud of the students, you know, for me, you sitting back watching it as, ah, professor and a staff member here at the University I was very pleased to see that our students being so active and being engaged in this work on an earlier you were talking about the violent acts committed against, you know, George Florida, my robbery. Briana Taylor, whose murderers who still have not been captured and brought to justice and then now, more recently with Jacob Lake and a host of others, um, the students were speaking out and are still speaking out. So once one challenge that you know, I know a lot of students who have had a chance to meet with over the course of the last six months. Um ah, lot of the challenges that it presented is that many students don&#8217;t know how to speak up, and they don&#8217;t know how toe advocate or being allies Who said So can you talk to the students that are out there right now? That may be listening to this who? Maybe home taking the classes remotely or maybe here on campus, trying to figure out how in the world can they make their voice count in this space and in this time,<\/p>\n<p>[0:12:53 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] yeah, of. I think that&#8217;s a really real question, like, um, because it could be, like, really intimidating to, like, you know, say something because you might not know enough or you might not have the eloquent enough, like have the right language. Um, or like even being those spaces where these when you&#8217;re allowed to speak out and like you&#8217;re allowed to question the status quo. And I think I do have to acknowledge the privilege that I have like being this in, like the Senate cost councils, which is like, very receptive to leg my voice My very radical boys. Ah, and and I have not been shut down from this species, But a lot of people do like experience that, and you do experience that in a predominately white university of like you tee right. Um So what I encourage people to do is just like, listen like, listen, Teoh Organizer&#8217;s and listen to these students that are speaking out and listen to the black voices like you did not want to be centering like somebody that does not experience this like on a daily basis. Right? Um, so listen to those voices and then don&#8217;t. Also, there&#8217;s also like, um, there&#8217;s also the saying like, Oh, just don&#8217;t like, Listen and learn, and that&#8217;s OK. That&#8217;s OK, too. But I think that you should be listening with the intent to act not just like in take everything and intake like their frustrations and antique like their rage and hurt. Because that&#8217;s just like you. I think that that&#8217;s that&#8217;s a place that you can be like. Oh, well, there&#8217;s nothing else that I can do or like your little come Comfort is about it, right? So I think, like listening with the intent of, like, speaking out and like acting out and like, and you can act out and listen like in space, like, right now in your classes. If you see something that, like is weird or like doesn&#8217;t just, like, feel OK, speak out against it Like I know a lot of these professors like, Yeah, they have been experiencing this during the summer as well, but they&#8217;re syllabus might be predominately white and, like you can point out those things like, Oh, do you have, like, any F maker like LGBTQ I authors or black authors on your syllabus? Like I think that the way that you make inclusive spaces is by questioning the status quo and questioning like why things have been for like that for a really long time. And that&#8217;s something that, obviously like it takes need this courage. But if you don&#8217;t do it, then who else is going to do it? And, yeah, and I think like you should take in all of those lessons and all these things that have been happening for months and you because you had enough time to listen. Look at this car. Tend to listen. Um, it&#8217;s time to act in your classrooms and some to act in those spaces in question. People&#8217;s like actions and question why or one how they on<\/p>\n<p>[0:16:07 Brandon Jones] you said a couple of things there and I want Oh, you know, typically, just so you know, my format is a somebody who subscribes to phenomenology, which is the study of the lived experience. I always try a za practice. I try toe, let the title of this show emerge during the conversation, and so as you were talking when you said listening with the intent to act, I love that statement. It&#8217;s probably gonna be the title of the episode because it&#8217;s got it has a very has a very social justice, advocacy and ally ship tone to it. It&#8217;s like the intent toe act. It&#8217;s like I&#8217;m not just listening to be listening like I&#8217;m not just sitting here in this space to just go to this class and do nothing. And so I really appreciated the fact that you said that on, then gave some details on how to go about doing it. But also you said something that about questioning the status quo. And my friend Darren Roberts, who was a professor on campus who also was one of the, was one of the first black. So I think he was the second black student government president here at UT a number of years ago, also from East Texas social. That&#8217;s all my East Texas people. But he says something in his podcasts and in his conversations with students is that we got to declare war on the status quo. Why do you feel like it&#8217;s so important to push back and question um, in this space, because again you&#8217;re a college student? You know, you said you migrated. Here is a young child. You&#8217;re part of the first Gen Longhorns, and so you&#8217;re navigating this space with multiple aspects of identity and culture. And you&#8217;re and you&#8217;re a student. On top of everything you&#8217;re doing, you are a college student. How do you make not only make time for all that, but also push back in a way that means something to you? Because you know that that&#8217;s a lot. That is a lot. How do you do all of that?<\/p>\n<p>[0:18:13 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, it&#8217;s exhausting. It&#8217;s very exhausting because I think, like, I mean, we have been normalized to not question things and just, like, go on and, like, go to class, do over, Teen. But isn&#8217;t that part of, like the size clo right? Um, I actually have a friend who wrote a poo road of about like how Brushing your teeth is kind of like capitalist capitalist propaganda, which is acceptable, right? But if you think about it, what they said was life because of your so used to all these routines. It&#8217;s like, allows you to not question why things are how they are. Um, and even though I was like that was, that was so funny to me. It&#8217;s very true because I think you can get lost in um and everything that&#8217;s going on, and I think that&#8217;s what can happen. And that&#8217;s I mean, if you listen to other people, like to other black like individuals, they can say like, yeah, like every time, Um, a black person dies like they can become a little bit numb to it and and that&#8217;s very valid. That&#8217;s extremely college, because that&#8217;s there every day but experience. But why? As a Mexican like woman, like what? Like I can&#8217;t if they&#8217;re going to be numb about it like that&#8217;s okay, because that&#8217;s their identity and like they have to live through that. But I don&#8217;t and I have the privilege of like during all these things and like acting and like questioning things because of my own privileges. Right? I play won&#8217;t be shut down in a conversation, and I think, like just question the status quo in like fighting against it is very important, even if you are shut down and it becomes a little exhausting. But I think it&#8217;s important for people to start start knowing that things are not going to go back to normal. Nobody wants things to go back to normal like we are being exposed to be inequities and socially just injustices in the world, and that was not okay. And that was not normal. And just because you did in half light, you weren&#8217;t aware of these things, like you think you can go back to not being aware like No, that&#8217;s that&#8217;s not high work,<\/p>\n<p>[0:20:37 Brandon Jones] right? Right Is that there&#8217;s, you know, Dr Tires, uh, who oversees all of housing and dining, always tells us we can&#8217;t go back. She says that all the time. She&#8217;s like when we come out of this, there is no going back to, um, the way things were were going to come out of this differently. And so the question you said something else a second ago, Um, that just sparked a lot of questions. I&#8217;m just I just keep writing questions down. You&#8217;re talking. What are some of the experiences that you feel like you took advantage of as a freshman? That or or it at any point in your educational journey? What are some of the experiences that you feel like you took advantage of? That helped you develop your advocacy and ally voice, Your advocate and ally voice. Yeah, let&#8217;s let&#8217;s let&#8217;s start there.<\/p>\n<p>[0:21:35 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Um, yeah, so that&#8217;s a freshman. I was like I had to follow a lot of like different things, like imposter syndrome, like my first language is not English. So, like I had to be, like, get used to speaking English all the time in, like being the spaces where I like, got to lower my hand because I didn&#8217;t think I was smart enough and like at one point I wanted to move back to back home because I think, like I thought I wasn&#8217;t smart enough. And I think that&#8217;s something that a lot of like students space here Are you t uh<\/p>\n<p>[0:22:09 Brandon Jones] before you dive deeper. Talk more about that because I think that&#8217;s important. We just started them semester two days ago, and students are coming from everywhere. Some students are remote. Some students are on campus. Some students are living off campus, but people are taking classes at this university. Somebody is struggling with that exact same thing. I want you to go back and dig into that imposter syndrome piece, talk about where you feel like that came from, and what that and how you overcame that. I don&#8217;t want to miss that. We&#8217;ll get back to the question. I asked you earlier, but I don&#8217;t want I don&#8217;t want to miss that, cause I think that&#8217;s an important detail.<\/p>\n<p>[0:22:45 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah. Um well, I think I felt imposture syndrome, which, for folks that don&#8217;t know imposter syndrome is basically thinking that you don&#8217;t deserve the chances that you&#8217;re getting. Um So I think I felt that way because, like I said, I come from a low income background like I did not have the same resource. Is that one of these people Hot? What? Never. Like somebody spoke in class like they had a lot of, like, eloquent and like, Hi. Uh, pretensions, language and distressed question. I was like, Oh, like that was so smart and like, Oh, my gosh, I will never be to that level. Um, and also, I&#8217;m a first gen student ID. Like I had to You did your out. Like what? Postsecondary education looks like. And, like, Hajto, ask for major hottie like a coach professor or how to, like, do all these things. And it was really difficult, um, in on top of that, like, I didn&#8217;t like, I didn&#8217;t have any friends coming here to you tea with me. So um I had to light start a fresh and starting you, um so all of these, like little things, like build up and like, one day Oh, I&#8217;m one day I got, like, a not a great that I was expecting, um, and it cried and, like I called my dad and I like, I thought that they would be disappointed in me. But that phone call really, like, changed my perspective. Like he said, um, you&#8217;re there to learn and like, you&#8217;re there to learn from your mistakes. And when you fall, you have to pick yourself back up. And I think like, I needed to hear that because it made it seem like I was there for me. Um, not just to, like, not just to be their presentation of my family s. Oh, all the things that I&#8217;m doing are for myself a smudges. I do want to make my family proud. Um, and that was like a really hard realization, because I think all first just students there, most of them like half this heavy burden of being like I have to be the very best for my family. That&#8217;s what through, like you&#8217;re there for yourself to you and you&#8217;re there to change your mind. You&#8217;re there to fall. Okay, That&#8217;s okay.<\/p>\n<p>[0:25:02 Brandon Jones] No, I said you dropping some major, You&#8217;re dropping some Major Jim&#8217;s this morning. You know, when we talk about that imposter syndrome you said I love the way you defined it is you don&#8217;t You felt like you didn&#8217;t deserve the chances that should get. And isn&#8217;t it strange that at a school like you, t where you know, you got the top 6% admission? Which means you&#8217;re admitting some great students, Some very smart individuals, all of you, Every last student who&#8217;s admitted to this university are all intelligent. And yet a lot of a lot of students come here and feel like, Whoa, I don&#8217;t belong. And it&#8217;s like you were in the top percent of your class. Like What do you mean you don&#8217;t belong like UT wouldn&#8217;t have admitted you if you didn&#8217;t yet when you think about the other variables, right? The other things that we experience, you know? You said you were You have You know, English is not your first language. You&#8217;re the first person in your family to go to college. Come from a low socioeconomic background. On top of all of that, you got a whole host of other identities at work and culture at play there, and you&#8217;re trying to navigate a place with 53,000 students in Austin, Texas, In this large, gigantic city. That&#8217;s a lot. And so I always try to remind students of the different things that you all have worked toe overcome Teoh not only be at UT, but to thrive at U. T. And I just really want to applaud you and other students who were out there. Listening to this right now who have had to overcome similar odds may not be the same, but definitely similar eyes. And then yet when I look at everything that you&#8217;re involved in, when I look at the student you are today and when I look at everything, you do it like your success stories who set so you know, kudos to you like you&#8217;re you&#8217;re out there doing your thing. So I&#8217;m proud of you can, and I&#8217;m happy that I&#8217;ve got to witness it in more ways than one, especially with you being in our A and participating in other experiences. Are there other Let&#8217;s go back to that question. I asked you earlier. Are there other experiences or opportunities that you took advantage of at the university that you felt like, Wow, this really helped me understand these things differently. Or was there a class like Dr Morris class or something like that that you know that you would recommend students or workshops the students could participate in, um, here at UT toe, help them develop their voice and get more comfortable speaking out?<\/p>\n<p>[0:27:37 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah. Um, I think my fall so much Sure. Spring semester I joined, which is I&#8217;m fighting. I&#8217;m plugging in a long horns for cultural Compton campus. Well, I joined that my freshman year. I don&#8217;t remember what&#8217;s mustard, but it was a really good experience because you get to learn about how to speak about, like, how to navigate different modes of communication and, like how to be a good advocate and, like learn about power and privilege, like you get a lot of the vocabulary that you need us. You grow like your ally ship and like, um, your advocacy skills. So that wasn&#8217;t really good experience, But I think like the turning point for me was after my freshman year when I became a nor infusion adviser. Yeah. Yeah, I didn&#8217;t want to do like I wasn&#8217;t gonna do it. Um, and then I was, like, No, like, cause I I feel like I was gonna miss back home. And then I was like, No, I&#8217;m getting like I&#8217;m going to do it. I&#8217;m gonna do it. And I did it. And it was the best experience because, um, I just got to meet a lot of, like, different people that were in their own little bubbles and like, doing amazing things. And I also like I met with, like, I met a bunch of students and I became, like, another fornication divisive for the school of education. And that&#8217;s how I got my third major. Uh,<\/p>\n<p>[0:29:04 Brandon Jones] wait, wait, wait, wait. You got three majors.<\/p>\n<p>[0:29:07 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, Well, English government. You<\/p>\n<p>[0:29:11 Brandon Jones] okay? Okay. So yeah, so? So let&#8217;s listen. Yeah, I got to make sure we catch this. So she talked about Imposter syndrome yet? Hey, she&#8217;s majoring in English. Government, youth and community studies. Yacht has three majors. Not one major to minors, not to minors. One major, three majors. Let that sink in. First. Students let that sink in. You can get out here and you can thrive. I&#8217;m not gonna ask you your GP. I&#8217;ll let you talk to the students about that privately, Off off the record. But because I mean, you can&#8217;t be are a with a bad GP a So she&#8217;s so she&#8217;s clearly thriving and doing pretty good with three. Vader&#8217;s first gin migrated to this country. Learn English killing the guy. Say you so So I see you. I see you. Okay. All right. Now, let me let you get back toe. Answer in the question. Go ahead. Go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>[0:30:06 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] No, thank you. Um, yeah, you can do it. Uh oh. So, yeah, I became nori, and and I&#8217;m they&#8217;re added might their major with education. And that&#8217;s where I will, like tone into, like, what I wanted to do. Um, I realized that I So I want to go to law school, but I really at other than law school, I also want to become an educator. And I also want to help my community and, like, become an advocate. And all of these stinks like are interconnected because you have to be educated like you got to keep up with things and in order to really advocate and, like, really become, um, like Eddie here community and let go back and, like, help them out. Um, so I think you know, a, like, really kind of launch my my actual, um explains here are you t because I met people. I my friend, wasn&#8217;t away, and they were the ones that told me to join Senate. And, like Crumb picked, I was like, Oh, like, there&#8217;s all of these other amazing things that I can dio, um, but no.<\/p>\n<p>[0:31:12 Brandon Jones] Wow. So I man, you&#8217;re a rock star, Susan, Like a year junior. So we got at least one more year of having you around on campus school just started back. And, you know, classes just started two days ago. We were in a pandemic. So some students are operating all over, you know, remotely or on campus or off campus. What advice would you have for those students out there? No matter where they find themselves where they&#8217;re residing, what advice would you offer to students who were looking toe bill community and engaged during this time? What advice do you have for them? What suggestions? Air resource is after to support them. That you that you&#8217;re aware of that work for students.<\/p>\n<p>[0:31:59 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Oh, yeah, like stay connected. There&#8217;s a bunch of or like organizations during virtual engagements and doing virtual, um, recruiting and all. They&#8217;re a bunch of being done virtually because they recognize that a lot of the students might be back home. So my first my first advice is to just, like, stay connected. Uh, but in order that you like, find a north that fuels your passion. And if you don&#8217;t stay in that order after your first year, that&#8217;s OK, but I think that you should really give yourself that chance to stay connected at U T. Because I think that while education like classes are really good, I think that the real experiences and like the real college experience, comes from the extracurriculars and, like using those classes and like playing them in into other outlets. Um, so, yeah, stay connected. There&#8217;s a bunch of research is on campus that are very cool. Um, so your first and longhorns, your cultural, um, multicultural engagement center um vdc, all of them really cool<\/p>\n<p>[0:33:19 Brandon Jones] now. And thank you for sharing that because one of things we always try to do with this show is to make sure that students, faculty and staff were listening. Uh, no. How to identify resource is on campus and staying connected. And I think it&#8217;s important when you talked about staying connected, uh, figuring out how to get connected, you know, in a remote space at that, you know, eyes different. But we&#8217;ve got things like Longhorn connection. You confined student organizations on, like, horns link the student activities website. I think in the show notes I may have toe put some links in here because we&#8217;re gonna use the back to school episode. And so some students are, you know, they&#8217;ve only been on campus for less than a week, and they&#8217;re trying to find you know how to me how to be the next sucess moon yos out here. So that&#8217;s gonna be a challenge. So thank you for sharing that. What other? What other, um, points would you like to make for your fellow U T students or folks that are listening to this? That may not be U T students. They may be parents of students somewhere else, or wherever they find themselves. That What advice do you have? Especially during this time, um, that of, ah, social on social unrest. Um, the pandemic, the hurricanes going on right now. Um, and on top of that, people having to make decisions about sending their kids back to school and all that. What advice do you have for folks as it relates toe How you can stay sane if I can use that word there. I kind of maintain your mental health on your physical health during this time so that it&#8217;s not overwhelming. What advice do you have in that regard?<\/p>\n<p>[0:35:00 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Mm. Um, uh, my advises that things were not going to go back to normal and like, you should be getting used to that, Um, and that&#8217;s okay, because your normal was the, um, the oppression of other communities.<\/p>\n<p>[0:35:21 Brandon Jones] And you river into the social, the social unrest,<\/p>\n<p>[0:35:25 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] unrest. So your normal was the oppression and the every day systemic injustices. Um, for other communities. So your normal is not is not good and shouldn&#8217;t go back. You should be questioning the spaces, and you should be questioning your friends and your circles and recognizing that there&#8217;s a lot more room to grow and there&#8217;s a lot from more to educate yourself on the stays. And, like I think now that we&#8217;re getting back to an actual routine on actual schedule, I don&#8217;t want people to forget that. And I don&#8217;t want to forget it, right, cause it&#8217;s once like midterms come around. I&#8217;m like, there&#8217;s no room to, like, do advocacy or, like, do other things. But no, there is this. What<\/p>\n<p>[0:36:12 Brandon Jones] questions should people be? Especially students. When you said we should be questioning our friends, we should be questioning our inner circles. We should be questioning the spaces that were in What kind of questions should we be asking, giving you an example of the type of questions that we should be asking, especially as it relates to the inclusive inclusivity?<\/p>\n<p>[0:36:31 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, um, question like if you are a like, for example, of myself, like I have all Hispanic friends. Well, why do I have Hispanic friend Sweida? A black friend? Why don&#8217;t I have a nation friend? Why don&#8217;t I have a white friend? You are off inner prejudices. Do I have, like, things that I have to be working on? Oh, so like making those like questions to yourself and being like, Okay, why haven&#8217;t I was shocked to be circles or, like, Why haven&#8217;t had connected with other people also like questioning Microaggressions And like all of these, like little things that just go over a raid or sometimes so, yeah, like, question your professors. I know that&#8217;s a really hard thing to do, but there&#8217;s a way for you to be like, um, I was just wondering if we&#8217;re going to talk about like and you have any black authors and your syllabus and like if we can incorporate that somehow there&#8217;s really, like, polite, polite ways to, um and I do that in quotations because I think Professor should be receptive about these type of things. But doing that you&#8217;re snuffling be like two. Is there any way that we can incorporate, like more inclusive and diverse curriculum and to our everyday learning experiences from?<\/p>\n<p>[0:37:52 Brandon Jones] I think that&#8217;s a good challenge, though, like because, as a professor myself, last year, when I was doing my interpreting black rage class, I posted some of my course material online on my Facebook page so that some of my friends could look at it and a lot of my friends were reaching out saying, Hey, I noticed you didn&#8217;t have any black women authors in your initial conception of the course, and I was like, That wasn&#8217;t intentional. I like, but I can fix that. And I, uh So what I did was I got black Rage by Greer and cobs written. The book was written in 1967 and 68. And then I got, um, Eloquent Rage, which comes out. Let it was 50 years later by Dr Brittney Cooper. And I was like, Problem solved because that book was my students responded very well to that text. And then I incorporated additional text from a plethora of black authors because the course was about interpreting black rage. And so I incorporated James Baldwin. Zorn, your Hurston. We did some forms from Nikki Giovanni on a bunch of other different things, but it was the students and in some of my colleagues that helped me to actually say, Hey, he met. You know, if you&#8217;re gonna talk about this topic, you do know that there&#8217;s a range of experiences that you need to be thinking from. And so I grew as an instructor because I was open to that feedback. And so thank you for putting that part in there, because I do that the student voice is so important. I mean, this is proven with those eight demands, uh, you know, for transformative change that you all came up with, I think that that, um, was birth out of a similar energy. And so thank you for putting that out there. Was there anything else you wanted to add to that part<\/p>\n<p>[0:39:37 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] home? Um, no, I just for like, your meds to physical health. Life. So, like, just know when you are feeling how your Julian that&#8217;s really like, Easier said than done, right?<\/p>\n<p>[0:39:50 Brandon Jones] She&#8217;s a college student, right?<\/p>\n<p>[0:39:52 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Oh, um, by, for example, I journal my journal, my feelings, and I don&#8217;t do it every day, But whenever things get a little bit too intense, slept them all out. And having that support system is really important. And if you don&#8217;t have that support system, um, that&#8217;s okay. Um, finding ways for you to visit campus resource is seeming e central. Yeah, Cmhc Sorry. After<\/p>\n<p>[0:40:21 Brandon Jones] God and a lot of his campus resource is our operating virtually to want to put the plug in there like because I know, because we keep saying campus resource is that&#8217;s okay. That, like that is still available to you students. They a lot of these resources are operating virtually so. I don&#8217;t<\/p>\n<p>[0:40:36 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] know, Um, And for physical help, um, you know, take talk has a lot of dances. Uh, that&#8217;s cool. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>[0:40:48 Brandon Jones] So what you&#8217;re saying is, you know, for, you know, professors and leaders and administrators, we need to be getting on tic tac now. Is that what you&#8217;re saying?<\/p>\n<p>[0:40:56 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Hey, um, it was it was going to be banned for a reason. It wasn&#8217;t it,<\/p>\n<p>[0:41:01 Brandon Jones] huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I try tic tac and, you know, I downloaded it once, and I was like, I don&#8217;t know what this is. And then I got off and I got back on one time, and then I went I can&#8217;t do it is just It was just so much. I&#8217;m like, you all can have that your generation your can have that. Because young I got this. Take talking belongs to you. You know, we Facebook at one point was just for college students. And then one day I get a Facebook request from my mom and I&#8217;m like, this is over. And so a lot of students don&#8217;t. A lot of students don&#8217;t really get on. Facebook is much. So thank you for sharing. That said, thank you so much for coming and joining the show today. I really, really, really appreciated having you any parting words for the audience that you want to say.<\/p>\n<p>[0:41:52 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Uh, yeah. Please join the senator. Closed council. We are recruiting people and new members, and we have an event next Friday, which is called It will Take it. Yeah, Friday at 3 p.m. We have a teaching called Dismantling the Good Immigrant Narrative. It&#8217;s going to be hosted by Dr Antonio Vasquez from the most department. Um, so please<\/p>\n<p>[0:42:15 Brandon Jones] tell the new people with Mozzie<\/p>\n<p>[0:42:18 Suseth Mu\u00f1oz] Yeah, it&#8217;s Mexican American Latino studies. Um, so please join and and you see the multi multi culture engagement centuries having their first week of events this week and next week. So check them out and go to all their beds, cause that&#8217;s how you know us. We get connected on campus,<\/p>\n<p>[0:42:41 Brandon Jones] Of course. Of course. All right, folks, with that Thank you, Sue set for joining us today and everybody listening wherever you are. Please get involved. Stay active. And if you&#8217;ve got questions about anything, please don&#8217;t hesitate to reach out to us. I can be reached at B. Jones at Austin, not utexas dot needy. You take care of folks. We hope you enjoyed today&#8217;s episode to catch the next instalment. Be sure to follow us on Spotify, apple podcasts, Google podcasts and stitcher. 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