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I&#8217;m your host, Brandon jones Associate director for Student Learning and Development in housing and dining and we&#8217;re excited to have you listening to us. Welcome everybody to the leadership innovation Ventures and entrepreneurship podcast. I am your host Dr Brandon W jones. And as always, I have a very special guest with us for today. None other than espinosa over born who&#8217;s one of our community coordinators over in housing and dining uh here on campus espinosa. How you doing today? I&#8217;m doing amazing. How are you doing today? But you know what? It&#8217;s a Wednesday? I&#8217;m excited. I&#8217;m happy and you know what that means, that the week is almost done. So I&#8217;m doing ok. Okay. Listen, I&#8217;m excited. Thank you. I&#8217;m excited to have you on the show been wanting to have you on for a long time and I think that the live live audience, the Live Nation, it&#8217;s going to be excited to hear from you and hear your perspective and you know, see what kind of cool things you&#8217;re up to, but before we get into the meat, as I like to call it, why don&#8217;t you do us a favor and tell us a little bit about yourself where you&#8217;re from and how you ended up here at the University of texas at austin? Yes, of course. Um I always joke around and I always start up like, oh well I was born february 12th and that&#8217;s just too much, too much information for y&#8217;all. But um I am from originally from ST louis Missouri and I am a midwest girl through and through um grew up in ST louis and then made my way to the University of Missouri in Columbia, where I got my undergraduate degree and I have a bad solution health sciences that once upon a time I wanted to be a dentist, quickly realized that was not my passion in life. Um and then after I graduated I had the opportunity to move right along to Kansas city Missouri, where um I started off being a college counselor in a high school through the college Missouri College advising corps, which I fell in love with. Um after my two year stint there, I decided it was time to get my masters and so I went to again the University of Missouri in Kansas City this time and completed my master&#8217;s in education administration with the emphasis in student affairs um and it was there where I was like uh this is this is where I need to be, I like this higher education being. And so during my time in school I had the opportunity to be a coup I entered and with that that let me actually to the University of texas at Austin to work at UHD. And I fell in love. I have a love for big schools, I don&#8217;t know what it is, it&#8217;s probably my undergrad. Um So I came here for a summer, loved it, fell in love um went back, almost finished my degree until I saw an opportunity to come and work full time here out at the university apartments. And so here I am a community coordinator at the university apartments, working with our graduate students. So that is my journey to ut now for our audience members who don&#8217;t know a Cujo. I stands for the Association of College and University Housing Officers International and this is the uh, association that works with campus housing and residents life professionals. So every summer and throughout the year we have interns on campus, we&#8217;re gonna have to this year. And sometimes depending on how well things work out as it did with that Canosa, it turned into a real, a real job later on for you. So just shouting out a Cujo. I there, let folks know what that is, definitely. Now tell us what, what does a community coordinator do at university apartments? Let&#8217;s start think. Yeah, So my position, again, like I mentioned, we primarily do apartment style living. It&#8217;s a little different than our residence halls and we have our graduate students. So we have students who are getting their masters or phds out there. Um, me particularly, I oversee and manage the bracken ridge apartments, which is our family housing. So we have uh, students there who are living with us who either have like a spouse, a partner, um parents living with them or they have Children and whatnot. And so those are the parameters um that we have at Brackenridge to live there. And so we do a lot of things very closely with our facility staff and we do similar things as programming um out there in residential curriculum to ensure that our students are also getting um a college experience um and with the lens of having a lot of international students, so we get to take that into consideration and learn more about their experiences what they like, what they&#8217;re looking forward to get. Um As a student at U. T. We we learn a lot about their degree programs um and how we can help them, I don&#8217;t want to say transition but help them just have a more comfortable time um in the easy way of living um out here in Austin. Yeah, no, thank you for sharing. And I think that that&#8217;s important to note because the experience of someone living in graduate and family housing is a little bit different uh than someone living in the residents. Can you talk about what that&#8217;s like here in Austin specifically because you got here in the city of boston, we&#8217;ve got the state capital literally right across the street from the main campus, And then we&#8217;ve got residents halls and then we&#8217;ve got 2402 aces and all the other apartments that we don&#8217;t own and rest life, but that are just there. And then of course, uh further away, we&#8217;ve got you all over in our graduate and family housing that I don&#8217;t think a lot of people know about. Can you tell the audience a little bit more about having graduated family housing at an institution of higher learning? Especially in a city like Austin texas. Yes. I always think it&#8217;s important to say like I think traditionally when you think of college students you think of the residents all that first year student. And so a lot of times I graduate students I don&#8217;t say ignored but it&#8217;s kind of like an afterthought. And so with our housing um at the university apartments it definitely um invites them to be a part of the U. T. Community. Um We&#8217;re a little further like you said, away from main campus which allows people to really live in the city of Austin without having um the I guess curated um experience of U. T. Right? So people really get to um create an experience for themselves where they&#8217;re like I get to walk super close by to Zilker Park and I get to go on the trails and I get to see a different part of the city um than what&#8217;s on main campus. And I think that&#8217;s really important for our students because again with family it&#8217;s like their kids are going to school, they&#8217;re becoming a part of the Austin community um and not just like the Youtube. So there&#8217;s the Youtube community living with you T residents and students, but then you have this wider range of being part of the city of Austin. And I think that&#8217;s a unique experience for our graduate students. It&#8217;s like not so close to main campus where we&#8217;re working really closely with our underground students but far away enough where it&#8217;s like I still have my space but I still feel part of the university. Why do you think it&#8217;s so important for our listeners? Especially those who are, you know, parents getting ready to send their students here or grad students considering coming to you t or wherever they find themselves at this point in juncture when they&#8217;re listening to this episode? Why do you feel like it&#8217;s important to find and identify within uh community once you get to a place? Yeah, that is such a great question. I think this is a big world, This is such a huge world. Beauty is a huge community, It&#8217;s a huge campus. Um and I think just the pockets of like either living in the universe departments or residents life kind of thing allows people to kind of just narrow down and be with like minded people, right? Um you you get to find people who are in your, I like to call them niches, but in your niche have similar mindsets who have similar goals kind of thing that you can connect to on a we&#8217;re all students were all in this together. We we understand the high point and we understand the low points. We can celebrate these things that are happening in our academic careers. And I think that&#8217;s an important thing when you&#8217;re building your support system. Um I also think that it&#8217;s a great opportunity to meet new people from different places and specifically with um graduate housing, like I said and mentioned before, we have a large international population, so people are coming from all over the world um and still having to connect on this like we r UT students. And I think that is something that higher education institutions allow students to get and to thrive in and learning how to interact with from people who have different perspectives, who are about to share things with you from their cultures wow that&#8217;s amazing. So what about for those international students that uh that choose to stay with us and they stay with you all? What are some of the things that you offer that so unique and different that they wouldn&#8217;t get living anywhere else? Um in Austin for example wow that&#8217;s a great question. You know I think the university departments are amazing. I think one of the biggest things is people working in the US life. I think we have this perspective that says like we want to take care of our students right? We want to make sure that we are giving them a place to live. That says like we understand you are student, we understand that your work that you&#8217;re doing is super important and we want to support that the best that we can. Um And I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ll get that in the city of Austin just um living anywhere I think um at U. T. And in uhd we want to curate an experience. We want to help we want to hear people um where they are and so that not only are we learning from our students but we as a department can really cater themes um to help them thrive um and live their best lives. I love that. I think that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m gonna call this episode a curated experience because for a couple of people that don&#8217;t know I want to transition a little bit. Um Because because you&#8217;ve you&#8217;ve done a couple of things you know you talked about wanting to be a dentist and then finding your fit within higher ed. Let&#8217;s go back to that because I want to do I want to do that and then I want to go a different direction. What made you change your mind about being a dentist? You know? Science crosses are hard. Yes, literally it was my dream since I was five years old to be a dentist. Um And then the science classes were like um I think we should we should figure out something else. I got classes at the college level or science classes in high school um In the college level. I could, I passed the ones in high school, I was like ah easy that college said, nah, this were a little different here. Um But I mean I graduated my degree and how science is thinking I was gonna go into public health. Um And I was like, this, this feels more so something that goes along with my strength and who I am as a person. Um So yeah, that&#8217;s that&#8217;s my dentist dream was killed shortly. Um What what what what was it about? Public health that was because there was something attractive about I yes, I love the aspect of helping people. I think that&#8217;s a generic scene to say like everyone wants to help people for me. Um I wanted to be a dentist because I I very much enjoy laughing and I enjoy smiling. And I was like, if I can help give that gift to other people no matter what their dental hygiene record is looking like uh that would be a gift that I could give to the world. Um And then once I figure out dentistry, wasn&#8217;t it? Public health became my focus because I was like uh like as a dentist you help one patient at a time, like you can only help a certain amount of people. And then I saw public health helps a wide variety and I was just like, I&#8217;m a big picture thinker, I&#8217;m an idealist and so I was like, public health is the way to go, I&#8217;m still helping people, but I&#8217;m doing it in a larger scale. Um yeah, so that was why I had this passion for public health and that&#8217;s what he died too. But you&#8217;re so, because because the reason I&#8217;m asking that question is for our listeners, you know, we&#8217;ve got freshmen that are going to be coming to college this episode. We&#8217;ve got current students listening to this and their parents and some of them, as I, and I&#8217;ve said this on several episodes, some of them are so afraid of changing their minds. We got to this point in higher education where we are so afraid of changing our minds that, you know, oh my gosh, that means I gotta go meet with my academic advisor, changed my major but oh no my parents really wanted me to be this engineer but I&#8217;m not good at math and we&#8217;re going but you&#8217;re very good at writing, why are we not pursuing this when this is your passion area? So that&#8217;s one of the reasons why I brought that up, but you have found a way to still maintain your love for helping people, one with your role here with us in housing and dining, but I want to shift gears and go into one of your your side projects because you know in higher end we got side projects, a lot of you know have some side projects and so I want to talk a little bit about enhance the individual, I want to talk about some of the some of the work that you do through the enhanced the individual platform, can you tell the audience what is enhanced, the individual, how it came to be and what you do with that? Yes. Oh my gosh, I love it&#8217;s like a love hate relationship. Talking about enhance individual because it is my brand. It is me, it is me at the most genuine and authentic level, so enhance the individual is my brand in business. Um I started and it&#8217;s like a blog and stuff like that. So I started it actually in college um with the hopes of being like a fashion blogger, right? I was like, I love clothes, I was really getting into fashion in college and I was like, oh I love the fact that I can share with people um waste to get themselves dressed and find positivity and boost their self esteem and self confidence through clothes. And so I purposely chose the word enhanced because like the definition is like to rise to the next level to level up and stuff like that. And I love that. That was something for me that resonated personally, because I was like, how do I become the best version of myself? Right? How do I become the best version of myself? And I was like, we&#8217;re going to do this. So it kind of transition. I got really tired, not tired of talking about just close, but it was just like, there has to be some meaning, there has to be some connecting between my love for helping people and my love for building up self esteem and confidence with this like, fashion aspect. And so it kind of evolved into this like um self love, self care, self promotion, self enhancement brand that said like, hey, like we have rough days, but there are ways to get out of it, we can sit in our feelings, but we have to remember tomorrow is still a scene for us if if you can find things that make you happy material, things can make you happy, I love clothes, I love getting dressed for myself um and just pushing out that positivity um and so that kind of was a big blog scene, and then the whole thing about influencing came about and content creation came about, and now again, like you said, I started to curate this brand that said, enhancing individuals about um writing to the next level so that you can become the best version of yourself, and I think for me that took off and resonated with a lot of people on the internet and on social media, on instagram, um that said, wow, like, you know, I like this positivity, I like this charisma, I like that she&#8217;s able to like share um just, you know, her personal life with people in a way that&#8217;s still uh optimist mindset. Um and so yeah, and so enhance individual, is definitely still evolving in a transitioning and like I mentioned, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s become a business um that still has that mission statement and vision statement that says like, we&#8217;re still here to uplift and help people rise to the next level, and I always say in all aspects of their lives, but um right now it&#8217;s more so in the beauty industry, um and that&#8217;s that&#8217;s what enhanced individual is, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s my brand, it&#8217;s in business, it&#8217;s my baby, it&#8217;s something that I very much resonate with and tell everybody and their mama about, so, no, and I think, and I&#8217;m really glad that you&#8217;re, that you&#8217;re, you know, open and and sharing that, because what you&#8217;ve essentially done is you took an interest that you had during college and you took somebody took some ideas and not only have you created a business out of it, but you&#8217;ve also found a way to merge the skill set that came because when you talked about earlier, when you were describing the work you do, you literally said we curate experiences uh the graduate and family housing over, especially at the apartment complex that you oversee. And so for you, you managed to take those things and use the changes, the changing change, you change your mind, but you still want to help people, uh you&#8217;ve taken that passion and that interest and that energy for helping people, and you created this thing, this this this this content, this lifestyle influencing, as you say, as it says on your instagram, I love that content, creator lifestyle influencer, right? Um and you&#8217;re doing something to help enhance. I love the fact that you chose that word enhanced. What is it about helping to boost self esteem? You said something very key there and I know what college students, you know, self esteem can be big one day and deflated the, I&#8217;m talking about big, you know, at a party or walking off campus or being that new freshman at school, but then you get those first grades of the semester and self esteem is low or come mid terms, how high it self esteem at that point. How do you help students or people in general? How do you help people navigate um keeping that self maintaining that self esteem during those difficult times? Times? Like, covid right now, I feel like I have to tell my story on how this works. So, my, my experience in college was like, I know, reflecting back it&#8217;s 20 hindsight, 20 point right, reflecting back, I was somebody who I felt like hid behind a lot of people. Like, I didn&#8217;t necessarily know myself very well, I didn&#8217;t necessarily understand who I was as a person and not that I was trying to be other people, but I was more observing what I felt like confident people were doing. Like, why is this person like, getting attention? Like, how is this person like doing these things? How are they fearless? How are they confident? And I vividly remember being a part of the Mizzou Black Women&#8217;s Initiative in college and They asked us to write, kind of, like, a letter to ourselves there, like, or characteristics of how we envision ourselves to be in like, 10 years. And so I remember writing this, I was like, I want to be a confident, successful person embedded and I&#8217;m all about manifestations. So I think writing being found is huge, right? Um And another piece of my story in college is like I almost failed out. Like I almost failed out of Mizzou. Um I almost failed out of Mizzou. I had lost my scholarship. Like my parents were very much like you&#8217;ve got a semester to get your life together and my you know the university was like you&#8217;ve got a semester to get your life together or else it&#8217;s not gonna work out. Yeah. And so I have to really look at myself especially in college and say like you know and believe like the only person who is able to change this it&#8217;s me and I have to believe that I can do that and that&#8217;s my biggest theme. Like I started to think like well there are resources on campus that are literally meant to help me. I started to go into forgot what was called, it was called a. R. C. And misery and I want to say it&#8217;s like academic resource center or something, staff down with one of those coaches. She laid out to me like here study habits, here&#8217;s what you need to do, you need to check in with me. And I was like okay great G. P. I changed my emphasis area to public health which really fit into my strengths right? And I said okay I can do this. Um And I did, I graduated, I got my scholarship back and so from there like after college I was like well I was able to do that. I was able to, even at my lowest moments I still believed I could do it, I might have not had the best self confidence, I might have not had the highest self esteem, but I believe that it was going to get better and I believed in the woman that I envisioned myself to be, that I wrote about. And so for enhanced individual, it&#8217;s more so for me. Um, and even as a student, that&#8217;s what I would tell students, I was like, you have to believe It will get better or you have to believe that today is today and that tomorrow will be tomorrow and every day. Oh, my brother told me this. He was like, because he wakes up really happy for some strangers and he was like, well, I wake up with intention and that&#8217;s one of my 2021 words. It&#8217;s to be intentional, you get to choose which words you get to choose what you&#8217;re going to do, you get to make decisions for yourself. And so that&#8217;s probably what I would tell students. I was like, it sucks today, it might suck tomorrow to. Um but you you get to change themes and you get to be an optimist if you want to be, and you get to find the silver lining if you want, um and that will care. I believe that will carry you a long way, and I think finding people who want to help you, like, I still credit heresy to my success at Mizzou, because like, without them, like, just giving me the tools to be successful, I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t really think I would have had the confidence that things like, oh, I&#8217;m gonna go get my masters, oh, I&#8217;m gonna, like, do this business theme and stuff like that. There are people along the way who are going to believe in you and trying to identify those people, I think really helps um with the whole self esteem and self confidence thing, but I do say like it definitely starts with believing in yourself. Why do you think it&#8217;s important for people to know their strengths? Because you said that a couple of times uh during this episode, why do you feel like it&#8217;s so important for people to know their strength? You know what, I think it&#8217;s a confidence boost? Okay, maybe I might have a big ego and I want to I want to hear the themes that make me amazing. Okay. And so when you talk about strength, you literally, because I took strength class in college and that&#8217;s when I learned about it and I was like, oh my gosh, you&#8217;re right, I do do these things, I am this way, this is how I work about people and you just get to be hyped up and the whole, you know, the whole basis of strength questions like stop focusing on the weaknesses and like work on your strengths and or work in your strength. Um and I think that&#8217;s super important because it&#8217;s like you&#8217;re naturally just doing these things, you are naturally thinking this way, this is how you naturally interact with people and if you can figure out um what type of job, you know or what type of organization or what type of leadership, position or whatever you want. I just think, I personally think it makes life a little bit easier. Just a little bit. It&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s not challenging, it&#8217;s just like, wow, like I know for example, um I&#8217;m a futuristic person um and I&#8217;m uh oh yeah, that was number one for me. And another one is like I&#8217;m a realtor. So when I&#8217;m talking to people, some of the things that I instantly do, I&#8217;m like, so like, what are your dreams? What are your hopes kind of scene? Because that motivates me, and I truly want to help people reach those things again, rise to the next level. Um So I think it&#8217;s super important for people to learn about those things and sit with themselves and think how do I work in this? I love them. And the thing that I like about, you know, we have dr shawna sober is on the show a while back and we we spent like an hour just talking about being a housewife. Knowing your strengths can help you show up and be the best version of yourself, because when you talk about that, we&#8217;re talking talent and investment and then strength and then your strength is that ability to consistently provide that near perfect performance, which equals your best self. Right? So knowing what those strengths are is very important. So I&#8217;m always plus one in anybody that&#8217;s out there, thinking about taking the Clifton strengths assessment, I would encourage it. I don&#8217;t care who you are or how old you are. I would tell everybody, I mean obviously we don&#8217;t want five, you know, you can take, I don&#8217;t know, five year olds are listening to this show five and I know, I know but what about you said something else a second ago, um you said, I believed in the woman I wrote about. That&#8217;s huge. That&#8217;s huge. And I know that that orientation and I know that at the beginning of every new year and every new academic year as well as the calendar year, everybody writes goals or resolutions of visions or mood boards or vision boards and we we manifested, we uh develop or we move in that direction or we don&#8217;t. But the question that I have for you is why do you feel like it&#8217;s important for people to believe in the vision or the goal or the person that they see themselves becoming as a relate as as a result, rather uh, actualizing or following through on these goals that they set for themselves. That was such a great question. Um, that comes with a lot of just like reflection and introspection, right? Um, I think our world has the speed of trying to pull people down, right? I think there&#8217;s a lot of negative in our world and if you are able to have this sense of belief, I think that that itself is amazing, right? I think there&#8217;s a sense of like you have this belief that it&#8217;s really hard to change somebody else&#8217;s belief and then thinking like you have to believe in this person that you envision because uh maybe it&#8217;s just me. Like I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t enjoy being aimless, like you know what I mean? Like not that I I would say I&#8217;m the most goal oriented person, but um I think there is nice to know that like wow, like I am working towards something every day. I am trying to do things that help me get there and understanding that it really could take you a while to do that. But you are doing things slowly every time once you wrote it down like your brain is calculating like, oh this works. I like this, this is might be new to me, but I know this is gonna be advantageous to me and slowly and slowly and slowly. You wake up one day and you&#8217;re like, wow, I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m here and you reflect like I&#8217;m reflecting with you all right now. I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m here. I did not think this is going to happen. I had no idea that I would be this confident person. I had no idea, I would be moving to texas. I had no idea whatever it could be for you. Um, but believing that is um, imperative to, I think working hard, right and working consistently. Um, yeah, and just just knowing that it will happen if you believe that it will happen. Yeah, that&#8217;s great. Thank you so much for sharing. And you&#8217;ve been giving us, you&#8217;ve been dropping some major gyms. Uh, this episode, I&#8217;m like, you know, it&#8217;s just something I do casually. So let&#8217;s talk about fashion. I mean, it&#8217;s a subject that&#8217;s near and dear to your heart why fashion? Of all the things in the world that you could be utilizing your with your willingness and desire to help people with? Why fashion? Why is fashion that thing? Not that that&#8217;s a bad thing. I was asking, what is it about fashion? That passion? And I guess that should be the question. What is it about fashion? Uh well, mind stems from my mother being a fashionista. Like growing up, like my mom could dress like it doesn&#8217;t matter where we were going. She could dress closets who are just magnificent. Um, I think closes what I realized, especially women&#8217;s clothing, even men&#8217;s clothing, but women&#8217;s clothing specifically is something that everyone is just so expressive, right? Like I know my personality, I know other people&#8217;s personalities and we could easily be like, oh, I love this piece for completely different reasons. Uh, and and it&#8217;s okay, right? Like I love the fact that there&#8217;s so many fashion designers and stores and whatever and they make all these different pieces and so many people can look at the same piece and be like, this fits me. This showcases my personality for whatever reason that is, and it&#8217;s something that you can appreciate right to work of art. It&#8217;s something that&#8217;s like, you can be creative about. Um and you can be, you can celebrate, I think also being like a Nigerian american person. It&#8217;s like, it&#8217;s such, it&#8217;s embedded in my culture that says like we wear these things because it showcases our culture. Okay, now I&#8217;m wearing a dress because I like the way that it fits. It could be a flowy dress, it could be a fitted dress, it can be a long dress, right? There&#8217;s so many options to showcase who you are as a person and that&#8217;s kind of why I gravitated to close. I, I tend to think like, wow, someone could either be very expressive with themselves. Someone can be very nonchalant with themselves and that&#8217;s a true represent. It can be a true representation of somebody. And for me it&#8217;s a confidence boost. I like, I like the way when closed it means I&#8217;m like, uh, you can&#8217;t tell me anything. No, no. Now again, we work on a college campus. Why is that so important on a college campus? Because you know, it&#8217;s college. I think college is one of the first times you get to really take fashion clothes, whatever into your own hands. And you&#8217;d be like, this is who I am as a person. And the thing about closes, like you can go through phases. I was not wearing what I was wearing when I was 19, I was still wearing tie dye t shirts and like, I don&#8217;t know, limited to shorts and I was like, I&#8217;m killing it. Um and at that phase of my life, that&#8217;s what made me happy. That&#8217;s what made me feel confident. And I think it&#8217;s like, again, like I said, expressing yourself, college is a time to express yourself. I think there&#8217;s a sense of freedom that you get not just being away from home and learning how to live alone, but just being able to outwardly express yourself to the people who are just going to see you on campus, right? You gain a confidence that says I chose this for myself today because this is how I&#8217;m feeling. Um and then I think it&#8217;s also like a conversation starter, There&#8217;s so many scenes talked around around fashion, right? Um I don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t necessarily, I think we speak specifically about fashion, but we speak about the connotations fashion can have um on different identities in someone&#8217;s life. Um And yeah, I just think it&#8217;s one of those things like you get to choose and you have the autonomy to choose. Um and that is we&#8217;re here to praise you for it. So yeah, that&#8217;s that&#8217;s cool. I was just thinking about like, you know, here at U. T. You know the speedway? Like that&#8217;s a runway. Okay. Like that that that is the runway. Like every school has, you know, the strip, the drag the walkway wherever people are walking and it&#8217;s high traffic. That that to me was, you know, the fashion scene. So if you were going to see people, you know, we&#8217;re wearing their best or they were gonna be hanging out in front of the the union or coop whatever, wherever you call it, on your college campus, That&#8217;s where the magic is gonna happen. And that was gonna be the chance to do, like what will smith said on the summertime. So drive two MPH so everybody see him. Yeah, that&#8217;s the beautiful thing about fashion and I think that, you know, you do such an excellent job. You know, as I look, you know, look at your instagram account and I&#8217;m constantly just marveling just like, wow you really about this life, like this is this is what you want to do. And while working on this college campuses, like you&#8217;re also working to enhance the individuals stylistically uh fashion and through tips and all these wonderful things. That&#8217;s awesome. What&#8217;s one thing that whether it&#8217;s related to the work that you do or whether it&#8217;s related to enhance the individual? What&#8217;s one thing that you haven&#8217;t told our listeners that you&#8217;re like, you know what, this would be something that I would want to know if I&#8217;m a parent or I would want to know if I&#8217;m a student coming to U. T. Or as I think about my own fashion journey. What&#8217;s that one thing that you would want people to know? Oh the one thing that I would want people to know about uh that&#8217;s a hard one. Take the risk. I think I just take the risk kind of thing. And uh I would honestly say and I know not everyone is worried like this. I was like take the risk and think the best will come out of it. Um That&#8217;s probably what I would say. I think there&#8217;s a lot of worry and there&#8217;s a lot of things to be timid and scared about and afraid of which everyone has the right to do. But um I think the quote of like you can&#8217;t grow when you&#8217;re comfortable is it&#8217;s prevalent and this is this is a time, especially in our society, a time for changing. Time for risk taking a type a time to just have those uncomfortable conversations because like the best could come out of this. I like it. I like it. Well listen espinoza, thank you so much for coming and hanging out with us today. 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