{"id":99,"date":"2018-11-30T15:51:08","date_gmt":"2018-11-30T15:51:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/british-studies-lecture-series\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=99"},"modified":"2021-01-20T21:28:44","modified_gmt":"2021-01-20T21:28:44","slug":"cyprus-and-world-war-ii-a-turning-point-in-the-war-in-the-mediterranean","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/podcasts.la.utexas.edu\/british-studies-lecture-series\/podcast\/cyprus-and-world-war-ii-a-turning-point-in-the-war-in-the-mediterranean\/","title":{"rendered":"Cyprus and World War II: A Turning Point in the War in the Mediterranean"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Speaker &#8211; George Kelling<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The British acquired Cyprus for strategic reasons in 1888, and the island has provided a valuable strategic base up to this day. During World War II, Cyprus faced the danger of a German invasion. The loyalty of the Greek population on the island could not be taken for granted. According to the Governor: \u201cMorale of the majority of Cypriots is at its lowest ebb. In event of invasion we can expect little help from [the Greek Cypriots] and some might even turn against us.\u201d What was the British response to a situation that posed the danger of revolt from within and invasion without? The answer has a bearing on the war in the Mediterranean and elsewhere. George Kelling served in the army from 1958 to 1978. On retiring, he entered graduate school, earning a doctorate in history at the University of Texas in 1988, with a dissertation dealing with Cyprus in the period 1939\u20131955. He has had a second career as a civilian historian with the air force. He has maintained a vigorous interest in the history of the British Empire, particularly Cyprus and the eastern Mediterranean, in World War II.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Speaker &#8211; George Kelling The British acquired Cyprus for strategic reasons in 1888, and the island has provided a valuable strategic base up to this day. During World War II, Cyprus faced the danger of a German invasion. The loyalty of the Greek population on the island could not be taken for granted. 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Roger Louis is head of the British Studies Lecture Series. He is an American historian and a professor at the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/University_of_Texas_at_Austin\">University of Texas at Austin<\/a>. Louis is the editor-in-chief of <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Oxford_History_of_the_British_Empire\">The Oxford History of the British Empire<\/a><\/em>, a former president of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/American_Historical_Association\">American Historical Association<\/a> (AHA), a former chairman of the U.S. Department of State's Historical Advisory Committee, and a founding director of the AHA's National History Center in Washington, D. C.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->","post_title":"Wm. 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The dark days<\/p>\n<p>of the 1950s when General Eisenhower, President Eisenhower warned us of an<\/p>\n<p>invasion of by the Soviet Union. John Foster Dulles<\/p>\n<p>was trying to rollback the Iron Curtain from there.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Kelling spent a good deal of his time in Vietnam. From there,<\/p>\n<p>he came back to graduate school at the University of Texas and wrote<\/p>\n<p>his dissertation on, of all subjects, Cyprus.<\/p>\n<p>And this is the topic that he&#8217;s going to talk about, soft noon. But, George, I have the feeling<\/p>\n<p>that not many people here have actually been to Cyprus, including my regrettably,<\/p>\n<p>myself. Has anyone else been to. Oh, well, we have a lot of people who have<\/p>\n<p>been to Cyprus. Great.<\/p>\n<p>But I do think he&#8217;d be a good idea if we could persuade Dr. Kelling to say a few words. First,<\/p>\n<p>just about Cyprus where it is and the nature of the island<\/p>\n<p>first. Okay. Can anybody hear me? Yeah, in the back. If I if you can&#8217;t hear me, hold<\/p>\n<p>up your head and I&#8217;ll go. I&#8217;ll talk louder. I was older. I can do that.<\/p>\n<p>Just a couple of words. Reformers are in Cyprus, but there is one of these<\/p>\n<p>islands in the eastern Mediterranean. With a Greek and a Turkish background<\/p>\n<p>and maybe the one place that has not been resolved from the<\/p>\n<p>exchange of populations and their resettlements after the First World War,<\/p>\n<p>they retained in the period I&#8217;m looking at and still retains a Turkish<\/p>\n<p>and Greek element in their population. And they have two different<\/p>\n<p>governors to two separate governments, plus a British sovereign<\/p>\n<p>base area, which is which is not part of the island of Cyprus. So<\/p>\n<p>the theme of Cyprus is a Greek Greek typer,<\/p>\n<p>a Greek, a Turkish relations. There are more rich Turkish soup of<\/p>\n<p>conflict. And it goes on today, although it&#8217;s much more subdued for what it used<\/p>\n<p>to be. To start.<\/p>\n<p>Roger Hirsch has off to answer for. In 1978, I retired<\/p>\n<p>from the Army in 1980 and 80 became a returning student at the University of Texas<\/p>\n<p>in 1984. I&#8217;d finally clawed my way to the stage of<\/p>\n<p>choosing a dissertation topic. All bright eyed and bushy tailed. I went in to see<\/p>\n<p>him with a bunch of good ideas. He told me politely but firmly that while these were good ideas,<\/p>\n<p>it would be Cypress. My heart sunk. But like a good soldier,<\/p>\n<p>I marched off the cipher studies. It turned out extremely well,<\/p>\n<p>and there been an excellent choice. What he didn&#8217;t tell me, however, was the<\/p>\n<p>cypresses addictive. Since Aphrodite landed on the island in prehistory,<\/p>\n<p>she has cast her spell. All those who have come there,<\/p>\n<p>crusaders Templars, Franks, Venetians, Ottomans<\/p>\n<p>and generations of oyster scholars have all been under her magic<\/p>\n<p>cypresses. Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave<\/p>\n<p>as proof. Thirty five years later, I&#8217;m still fooling with Cyprus history.<\/p>\n<p>The topic which captured my attention was another example of<\/p>\n<p>the spill of the island in 1940, when defense plan based on mountain out outports<\/p>\n<p>outpost with a medieval name off of keeps.<\/p>\n<p>Unfulfilled plans for military operations. It could be the dry ice does that blows.<\/p>\n<p>Reading memoirs and narratives of the build up to the 1944 invasion of France,<\/p>\n<p>I have to admit that my eyes glaze over and at the analysis of early and<\/p>\n<p>never consummated plans and I&#8217;ve just turned the pages. These planes<\/p>\n<p>lie on the shelf, though, can give it an insight into the state of mind at the time they<\/p>\n<p>were devised. The plan for the defense of Cyprus in 1941 is one such example.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also arguable that the marked a change in the.<\/p>\n<p>In the tempo of the war, in the early years of World War 2,<\/p>\n<p>Cyprus was secure, tidy and geopolitically with its of the<\/p>\n<p>Levant. Now in this Garret Harrison by a French colonial radio regiment<\/p>\n<p>under command of the French headquarters in Lebanon and Syria, and the French fleet added to<\/p>\n<p>the to the security of the island. So long as the French alliance was<\/p>\n<p>healthy. Invasion of Cyprus was hard to imagine. In 1940, however,<\/p>\n<p>the situation began to change dramatically. The springtime collapse<\/p>\n<p>of Normandy in of Norway and Denmark were prelude to the rapid, rapid fall of France<\/p>\n<p>and the low countries France accepting an armistice in 1940.<\/p>\n<p>The security of Cyprus was turned on its head with France and the French Covanta. It transformed from allies<\/p>\n<p>to unfriendly neutrals fresh 070. It was enhanced<\/p>\n<p>by the do.I third 1940 British attack on the French fleet Amercia. Kabeer<\/p>\n<p>the French garrison was withdrawn with a few of its soldiers joining the nation forces<\/p>\n<p>of de Gaulle. The peril increased with the German invasion of Amane increased<\/p>\n<p>Greece, followed by a dramatic airborne landing in Crete, both<\/p>\n<p>accompanied by Luftwaffe superiority and British evacuations.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, in the few months, the outlook for the for the nation. Changed from<\/p>\n<p>that of a comfortable base, deep, deep in friendly territory to an endangered outpost<\/p>\n<p>surrounded by hostile powers and unfriendly neutrals nearby Syria and Lebanon<\/p>\n<p>were where, at least in the informal cooperation with the Germans.<\/p>\n<p>Well, after the stunning subsect success of the airborne forces in Corinth and Crete, it seemed<\/p>\n<p>that Cyprus would would be the next item on Hitler&#8217;s menu. At<\/p>\n<p>the same time, the jackals were starting to circle their campfires. It always saw<\/p>\n<p>herself as and as a great power<\/p>\n<p>and was notorious for picking up the pieces of other other campaigns,<\/p>\n<p>having carved pieces out of Yugoslavia, Greece and France with territories in<\/p>\n<p>nearby Delta Cooney&#8217;s. Mussolini. Consider him himself heir to the eastern Mediterranean<\/p>\n<p>domain. And we have and we&#8217;ve seen seen EISEMANN<\/p>\n<p>scheming, supposedly neutral. France was was not an uninvolved.<\/p>\n<p>The Outten the its first air raid was conducted by the Italian Air Force. It did<\/p>\n<p>little harm, but was the beginning of a series of air raids which continued for several years. On one<\/p>\n<p>occasion, the owner received attacks from German, Italian and Vichy French aircraft.<\/p>\n<p>Softer but more dangerous threats to British sovereignty came from out<\/p>\n<p>friends and allies, even an abject defeat. Greece<\/p>\n<p>and ambitions for the island. The Greek stated, had been wrested from the Turks<\/p>\n<p>through through a series of struggles of shared determination.<\/p>\n<p>Despite the execution of many patriots. What?<\/p>\n<p>What? By 1940, 40 was called the mcgaughey idea, or the great idea was a dream<\/p>\n<p>of uniting all Greek speaking peoples under the Greek flag. The idea added<\/p>\n<p>that at a Greek Crete and thrice and in<\/p>\n<p>the dream and involved emesis or union with northern FPO epigraphs or southern<\/p>\n<p>Albania though to Kinney&#8217;s and of course, cyphers. Greek policy<\/p>\n<p>turned his talks to Cyprus even before the fall of Greece.<\/p>\n<p>On April 14th, 10 days before the evacuation of the mainland, but when the end of the campaign<\/p>\n<p>was obvious, the American ambassador in Athens, we received reports that<\/p>\n<p>the king, the king of Greece, had visited him, knowing that the king<\/p>\n<p>would prefer to evacuate the court to Cyprus rather than Crete.<\/p>\n<p>He suggested that Britain might want to see know an enclave in Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>to Greece. So the king could continue to reign from Greek soil. On May<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;m sorry, in Crete suggesting that too encouraging the Greeks at<\/p>\n<p>their time of a crisis. The British might grant Cyprus to Greece as a personal<\/p>\n<p>present, according to the proposal during<\/p>\n<p>the war. Britain would continue to administer the island under the egis of the Greek king,<\/p>\n<p>but with full with full administration being takeover by Greece after the peace.<\/p>\n<p>Although he is right and rightly remembered as uncontracted,<\/p>\n<p>Victorian imperious Winston Churchill did not object to such ideas out of hand<\/p>\n<p>even before the king&#8217;s approach of them to the American ambassador. Churchill, perhaps<\/p>\n<p>considering the Greeks would be support subservient to British influence.<\/p>\n<p>Cable abrasion M.D. Commander. If, however,<\/p>\n<p>the king or any part of the Greek army is forced to do it, Greece,<\/p>\n<p>every facility will be afforded to them and cyphers way better. So the governor of Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>immediately cable the Konya office of such an act would make Cyprus ungovernable and in fact,<\/p>\n<p>mark the end of British rule on the island. Doubts about the future<\/p>\n<p>of the island. We&#8217;re not we&#8217;re not confined to them to the Atlantic world. Australian<\/p>\n<p>Prime Minister Robert Menzies had been extremely critical of Churchill and<\/p>\n<p>his conduct, the war in the Pacific, or what he viewed as Churchill&#8217;s cavalier willingness<\/p>\n<p>to sacrifice Australian troops to his adventures<\/p>\n<p>with the dispatch of the Australian Light Armored Regiment to Cyprus.<\/p>\n<p>The Australian prime minister saw it all happening again.<\/p>\n<p>It appears the intention is the whole Cyprus, at least for the time being. But no<\/p>\n<p>further troops can be made available in Cyprus to Menzies. The forecast<\/p>\n<p>was clear. You will, of course, appreciate what this means. Another forced the evacuation<\/p>\n<p>will have serious effect on public opinion in America and elsewhere. Well,<\/p>\n<p>elsewhere within Australia, there are certain to be serious reactions. His conclusions<\/p>\n<p>were logical, given his knowledge of the situation. Greece should be held and<\/p>\n<p>to that and then should be garrisoned by a sufficiently strong force. Or if such a force<\/p>\n<p>is not available, the enterprise should be abandoned. Governor Barter sells<\/p>\n<p>gloomy prognostication, reflected that of the Australian prime minister,<\/p>\n<p>reflecting his insight on as the man on the spot, he met the minuted<\/p>\n<p>Marella, the majority of Cyprus Cypriots. It was at its lowest ebb being so rapidly<\/p>\n<p>over or after Crete. There are many mutterings in the event of invasion.<\/p>\n<p>We can expect a little help from from the population and some might even turn against us responsible<\/p>\n<p>for the colony. He did. He deplored the course of those under under his administration<\/p>\n<p>for what he perceived to be a military of no built military benefit. The battle would involve,<\/p>\n<p>inter alia, the destruction of main towns and<\/p>\n<p>villages with much loss of life. We shall gain nothing and prestige,<\/p>\n<p>but we shall cause untold suffering to two civilian Cypriots.<\/p>\n<p>At the center of the government. Well, Churchill maintained a stiff upper lip concerning<\/p>\n<p>who plans for for the island. There were stirrings there up and down Whitehall.<\/p>\n<p>Opinions different in different parts of the Foreign Office. But the trend was toward<\/p>\n<p>realpolitik. Her view of the possession of Cyprus and part of the as part<\/p>\n<p>of the overall postwar society for defense of the Mediterranean. One example<\/p>\n<p>of the dozens of Foreign Office Office memos on the topic is perhaps typical<\/p>\n<p>of Foreign Office thinking is most likely that we shall be able to, in practice, to be<\/p>\n<p>able to maintain our sovereignty over Cyprus and the political conditions likely to secede after the war.<\/p>\n<p>Bowing to what the minister Foreign Office official S. Walker saw as the inevitable,<\/p>\n<p>the best thing, of course, was to make what would make what capital was possible. Other than<\/p>\n<p>the inevitable evacuation, we should do everything possible.<\/p>\n<p>To art and to safeguard our strategic intentions. Perhaps the memo, which<\/p>\n<p>best reveal the Foreign Office official mind was by official original Bulker on May<\/p>\n<p>it is possible that on taking Cyprus, the government will decide<\/p>\n<p>well declared to be a part of greater Greece.<\/p>\n<p>The colonial office was was left out of the evacuation of speculation, ostensibly due to oversight.<\/p>\n<p>But their objections were not decisive. The final word, not for the first time, was in the hands of the Prime Minister<\/p>\n<p>on June 6, 1941. He sent a note to the Foreign Secretary, bringing discussion to a close.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s much better to leave all all mentions of test cast or<\/p>\n<p>re-adjustment till after the war. I do not think we should see an inch of British territory during the<\/p>\n<p>war. Even this dark hour, Churchill&#8217;s innate<\/p>\n<p>optimism shown through tempered by healthy realism. It does not<\/p>\n<p>follow that Cyprus will be immediately taken. If they if the Germans take<\/p>\n<p>it, they will probably give it normally to the Greek quisling government. Well,<\/p>\n<p>well, using it. It won&#8217;t make much difference in what happens.<\/p>\n<p>With that decision, the discussion ended with the war<\/p>\n<p>began. The war continued, as did the crisis. The ball passed<\/p>\n<p>into the court of the military command, which they had to plan for them before what was seen as the assault<\/p>\n<p>on the island. Well, considering the plans, the contrast<\/p>\n<p>with those for the defense of Cyprus, with plans for defense of England were notable.<\/p>\n<p>Churchill envisioned defensive of England to contest every every block<\/p>\n<p>in every field, every city with the entire population.<\/p>\n<p>Its finest hour speech delivered in almost exactly a year earlier, was rightly considered<\/p>\n<p>evocative of the air, of the spirit of the time, the raising<\/p>\n<p>of the Home Guard and stay behind parties to to wreak havoc behind behind German lines<\/p>\n<p>made it clear that it was a people&#8217;s war to be vision and<\/p>\n<p>and would certainly have had been put into effect had the Germans invaded.<\/p>\n<p>Perception and reality on the ground in Cyprus presented a contrast, Governor Battersea<\/p>\n<p>and the common authorities realized that the Cypriots could not be relied upon to assist in the defense of the island.<\/p>\n<p>Well, at the same time, images of the French roads of 1940 40 clogged with refugees, making<\/p>\n<p>military deployments all but impossible. We&#8217;re still clear in the military official mind.<\/p>\n<p>On May 23rd, the call your administration sent guidance to the population in case of invasion.<\/p>\n<p>The short message told the population three times, stay where you are. Putten<\/p>\n<p>pointing out that the enemy with machine gun refugees from the air and make the screams of those in flight<\/p>\n<p>would clog the roadways needed for the fence of the island. There was no mention of resisting<\/p>\n<p>invader on the beaches or in the interior. Without a doubt, the governor<\/p>\n<p>and staff were well aware of the situation on the island and the outlook of the Cypriots.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, the later experience of civilian resistance in Western Europe or for that matter,<\/p>\n<p>in mainland Greece and Greece in Crete, we&#8217;re still in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Cyprus. Cyprus will have its people&#8217;s war in 1950<\/p>\n<p>Ten years later. Even so, some some voices noted the typical<\/p>\n<p>arms.<\/p>\n<p>G G O Toit Anguish resident, the colony Rotworld, the English language newspapers<\/p>\n<p>that on the day of Governor Better SIL&#8217;s advice of the population, saying<\/p>\n<p>I search your page, your pages for some some inspiring official message to be a good<\/p>\n<p>cheer. And what do I find? Two notices, one promises showing currency notice<\/p>\n<p>in the near future. The other, the population of the 50 point of the Cyprus Commission on the Preservation of<\/p>\n<p>Official Monuments. His frustration was clear. Ye gods,<\/p>\n<p>when or someone arrives and. Inspires with with who<\/p>\n<p>will for the present fasion of the Cyprus. Cyprus, the empire and our heritage of freedom. Never once<\/p>\n<p>a flesh and blood. Personal appeal to the Cypriot and the impassioned language with the<\/p>\n<p>Cypriots in pretty particular expect to understand hard<\/p>\n<p>not to sympathize with toit. But he doesn&#8217;t seem to apply to the fire.<\/p>\n<p>Churchill reassured the foreign and colonial officers sparred.<\/p>\n<p>Australia carped. The governor expected the invasion<\/p>\n<p>and Geo Toit fulminated, but the understaffed Garrison had.<\/p>\n<p>Of the island have had a bell to prepare for. The German juggernaut appeared to have been all but<\/p>\n<p>inevitable with the dramatic German village victories through Denmark and Norway, the whole countries,<\/p>\n<p>France and Rio. Recent weeks. Assaults on cottonelle Greece and create<\/p>\n<p>the are three resulting in costly British evacuations<\/p>\n<p>appeared that the British airborne assault on Crete could could be easily unleashed on Cyprus.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve found nothing in the records to indicate that there was a conscious design to have more evacuations.<\/p>\n<p>But the defense plan call for defense of the interior, which would preclude evacuation,<\/p>\n<p>even had the British had the air and naval power to make<\/p>\n<p>such an act possible. Coast defense was not entirely neglected.<\/p>\n<p>For example, I found the remains of a machine gun posts overlooking the rocks near paphos,<\/p>\n<p>where Aphrodite came out of the sea. There were coastal outposts,<\/p>\n<p>but domain system of to repel invaders. As noted above,<\/p>\n<p>it was to be offense and a defense by British forces, not a people&#8217;s war.<\/p>\n<p>The garrison included an infantry behind the Cypress regiment and some part timers,<\/p>\n<p>the Cyprus volunteer force. But the local units were not prominent in the defense<\/p>\n<p>game breaks thinking did not see the Cypriot as a fighter. A review<\/p>\n<p>of the records really shows a number of comments on the suitability of the Cypriot military<\/p>\n<p>life. For example, a pre-war War Office study<\/p>\n<p>noted climate effect on natives, although probably in gradings out<\/p>\n<p>in great measure, responsible for the constitutional laziness and thrift with nature<\/p>\n<p>of the Aboriginal Cypriot climate could not be said to have any marked the fifth effect on the native population.<\/p>\n<p>The War Diary of a Pack transport group explained it may prove of interest that the peculiarity<\/p>\n<p>of Cyprus Cypriot troops their grandfathers were were in all probability brigands<\/p>\n<p>living in mountain villages.<\/p>\n<p>Murders unfold, unfortunately, not unheard of. Men with knife<\/p>\n<p>each other over a gambling debt at cards and we&#8217;ll shoot the regimental police and kill them.<\/p>\n<p>Gambling is popular, popular and very difficult to control. And before night<\/p>\n<p>fortnightly pay, Amandla may lose all his money. And leads to selling kit.<\/p>\n<p>It is obvious that the British command did not expect to raise any reliable units from Cyprus villages.<\/p>\n<p>You know, somewhat halfhearted attempt to use the cyphers for the islands of Cypriots, for<\/p>\n<p>the islands, the fence, the Cyprus commando was formed in Nicosia<\/p>\n<p>on on June twenty twenty fifth nineteen forty one, despite<\/p>\n<p>the early urges that a standard view of their Cypriot. As a brigand<\/p>\n<p>with traits, one who expected to be. Exploit it<\/p>\n<p>for your regular warfare. The headquarters saw the first act as making<\/p>\n<p>proper soldiers out of the approximately 60 commandos. The commander<\/p>\n<p>gave them basic military training with emphasis on teaching him how to shave on day five of training.<\/p>\n<p>The record notes that the recruits lack coordination<\/p>\n<p>and suppleness. It&#8217;s hard to read between the lines<\/p>\n<p>of the barebones ordinary diary, but it appears that the intent was for was to train<\/p>\n<p>soldiers within a band of guerrillas. The unit was issued<\/p>\n<p>with the prestigious commando Green Beret, but their armament<\/p>\n<p>was captured Italian rifles and with apparently no automatic weapons<\/p>\n<p>or grenades or demolition materials. The unit made reconnaissance<\/p>\n<p>of nearby mountains and established established<\/p>\n<p>ammunition and fuel depots in the forest. But there seems to be little enthusiasm<\/p>\n<p>for or realism in the projects. The Cyprus commando was quietly disbanded<\/p>\n<p>after about six months. After all, after which time<\/p>\n<p>had stood up and perhaps influenced by the headier of the Cyprus of Aphrodite,<\/p>\n<p>the Crusaders, Richard the Lionheart and others, the strong points were given<\/p>\n<p>the evocative name of keeps. The plan calls for a series of eleven, keeps<\/p>\n<p>most of them on high ground to be garrisoned by one or more companies supported by mobile and armored<\/p>\n<p>units. A large central reserve would be available to go the hate<\/p>\n<p>of the keeps under attack and some fighter airfields will be defended<\/p>\n<p>to be used in support of the keeps. The intent was not<\/p>\n<p>for the keeps to be static fortresses, but rather the bases for mobile columns roaming outside<\/p>\n<p>the perimeters. The mobile Collins would scream the keeps and keep the roads open for the central reserve.<\/p>\n<p>The plane, Leighton, made an evacuation all be impossible. In fact, assume<\/p>\n<p>that the enemy could land from the sea it will and supply Thompson and insulations<\/p>\n<p>near the coasts were being prohibited. It&#8217;s easy to pick holes in the plan.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a certain unreality about medieval keeps out of range for mutual support,<\/p>\n<p>fire support and opening and defeat in detail. It appears<\/p>\n<p>that the keeper who have been invaders dream such speculations will die. You know, shows showed the accuracy<\/p>\n<p>of 75 years hindsight, full understanding of the effects of the power and the<\/p>\n<p>inability of airfields to ground attack as well as on underground and guerrilla<\/p>\n<p>warfare were to come.<\/p>\n<p>As it turned out, the crisis over.<\/p>\n<p>It turned out the crisis, if it ever existed, who was leading the abrasions Asian side of Syria<\/p>\n<p>began on July 10th, the date of the Australian Prime Minister&#8217;s disparaging letter<\/p>\n<p>with the Syrian and Palestine airfields in allied hands, air support<\/p>\n<p>against any invader was assured. The always the facts remain weak and the Italian<\/p>\n<p>German invasion was not it not impossible. We saw sort of little strategic purpose.<\/p>\n<p>Other humans were also favorable by Midford 1941, the British ultra program<\/p>\n<p>of breaking German codes was becoming reliable. Although well aware of the danger<\/p>\n<p>of over reliance on ultra Britain, strategists knew<\/p>\n<p>that the credit pyramid that the crypto German<\/p>\n<p>signals traffic made almost no reference to the attack on Cyprus. Perhaps more safe<\/p>\n<p>significant. The British were aware of the upcoming invasion of the Soviet Union.<\/p>\n<p>Highly classified information was only available to the London Command Post and the highest levels of the military<\/p>\n<p>command. The beleaguered planners on Cyprus were unaware of these impending<\/p>\n<p>events. In addition,<\/p>\n<p>it now seems that the threat of a German invasion never existed<\/p>\n<p>in the eyes of the of the Nazi authorities in the aftermath of the successful<\/p>\n<p>invasion of Crete. The German juggernaut appeared in Invincible. The commander<\/p>\n<p>of the German German airborne assault on Crete was right continue<\/p>\n<p>to turn a curt student commander. The 11th Air Corps, which had conducted the assault, was raring<\/p>\n<p>to go and propose an early assault on Cyprus to follow up the dramatic victory<\/p>\n<p>in Crete. He did not speak for the Nazi power structure.<\/p>\n<p>The Greek Greek campaign had been a Pyrrhic victory, with German casualties so heavy.<\/p>\n<p>That Hitler opportunity was never attempted. Another attempted airborne coup.<\/p>\n<p>The Germans did not totally disarm, discard the idea of an attack on Cyprus. But such an assault would<\/p>\n<p>have been little we&#8217;llsee. Sexual assault. We&#8217;ve been theory theoretically possible during 1943.<\/p>\n<p>The fog of war was thick. Was. With 77<\/p>\n<p>years after the fact, we know we know that the threat of a German invasion of the island never really<\/p>\n<p>existed. It was not so clear that time in London<\/p>\n<p>or in Nicosia. It appears that the British officials assumed<\/p>\n<p>the island had been been lost. Even Winston Churchill, for all his optimistic pronouncements,<\/p>\n<p>appearsto felt the Germans would attack and conquer. It&#8217;s difficult to criticize their analysis at the time.<\/p>\n<p>No responsible official could realistically have ruled<\/p>\n<p>out a German attack on Crete. On Cyprus. The British<\/p>\n<p>defense plan is more difficult to evaluate since the invasion did not take place. It&#8217;s impossible<\/p>\n<p>to say how the plan and the keeps would have worked in practice.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s hard and it&#8217;s hard to banish the concept of the &#8230;keep as a crusader castle<\/p>\n<p>from which armored vehicles like the Knights of Old were Sally forth over the drawbridge. Despite<\/p>\n<p>the foe, despite the melanoma culture, the idea is not particularly<\/p>\n<p>unusual and is quite similar to the boxes in the Japanese offensives and in India,<\/p>\n<p>In the second Chindia IPO operation in Burma, I quote in a close<\/p>\n<p>reading, is more interesting for the leaves out than when its says the Cyprus defensor<\/p>\n<p>scheme more or less assumes German air superiority. An appendix dealing<\/p>\n<p>with the with the concept of the keeps does not mention friendly or enemy air power.<\/p>\n<p>There is no mention of logistics or stocking up the keeps in advance of battle.<\/p>\n<p>It is notable that keeps her out of range from one another and unable to provide mutual<\/p>\n<p>fire support. Also, weather, while not mentioned dispersion keeps across<\/p>\n<p>the island, appears to assume that the Germans will be able to land by sea or air at will.<\/p>\n<p>After the battles of France and Greece, there could be no doubt the potential for these types of attack<\/p>\n<p>that they were possible and affected. Since the troops available.<\/p>\n<p>For the defense of the island, where in any case, insufficient. The plan appears to be one of despair<\/p>\n<p>to make the best of an impossible situation.<\/p>\n<p>There was no battle and we will never know. It appears the German invasion, backed by sheer<\/p>\n<p>airpower, will become a series of last stands, with the German forces wiping out the keeps one by one<\/p>\n<p>in the location that keeps was all but precluded evacuation. I found no document Tasso state,<\/p>\n<p>but once again, after the Agami ignominious evacuation to Norway, Dunkirk,<\/p>\n<p>Greece and Crete, it&#8217;s possible the Cyprus commander<\/p>\n<p>then, given the order, that there would be no more evacuations to do or die.<\/p>\n<p>Whether his opposition is correct or not. Mid nineteen forty one saw the end<\/p>\n<p>of the nosedive of British fortunes that had taken had taken since this spring of 1940.<\/p>\n<p>Successes in Syria and Iraq. When parties to stabilize the eastern Mediterranean<\/p>\n<p>and the German invasion of Russia made an invasion of Britain unlikely mid<\/p>\n<p>The invasion trache threat came and went and the war moved on.<\/p>\n<p>Although establishes a strategic base in the eastern Mediterranean and it fulfills it continues<\/p>\n<p>to fulfill that role in the years before and and and those today with the sovereign base areas<\/p>\n<p>which are not part of the Republic of Cyprus. British, but the British possession of<\/p>\n<p>Cyprus was a strategic deficit in 1939 1945.<\/p>\n<p>The answer is forgotten, but perhaps it took a new life in the 1950s. Since the site&#8217;s partially<\/p>\n<p>prepared for the keeps my Welborn seen later, I&#8217;ve seen waiter service as<\/p>\n<p>Hydes with the Yoko revolt, in which the view of the Cypriot as a passive non<\/p>\n<p>fighter was put through put to the test like.<\/p>\n<p>I found several points of this talk very engaging about the war itself, but I would like to<\/p>\n<p>pick up at the end because I, for one, have always thought<\/p>\n<p>that the British should have simply ceded Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>to Greece after the war. That would have solved the problem. And the Turks were then too weak<\/p>\n<p>to have done anything about it. And I know there&#8217;s some support for this, but why didn&#8217;t it work?<\/p>\n<p>Cyprus is always seen as a strategic base, which could not be ceded.<\/p>\n<p>And it&#8217;s been a long time since my dissertation, but the famous.<\/p>\n<p>The famous Hopkins endeavor. About 1954. Say<\/p>\n<p>there are some colonies which will never be given up because of their strategic importance.<\/p>\n<p>And I think that you see that point of view still<\/p>\n<p>still going on, that even after Cyprus won, it was ungovernable<\/p>\n<p>after the Okah rising. The final.<\/p>\n<p>Arrangement. Still have two areas as British territory,<\/p>\n<p>and these are specifically not not British bases in Cyprus. They<\/p>\n<p>are British British territories apart from Cyprus. Now<\/p>\n<p>I can see that maybe 20, 30. When there&#8217;s an overall<\/p>\n<p>reunification of of Greek and Turkish Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>and a call for the removal of foreign troops, we shall see how that whether that&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>going to stand up or not. But we won&#8217;t know until then.<\/p>\n<p>David, I was just thinking that probably the best known family member of the Greek royal<\/p>\n<p>family is Prince Philip. Yes, he has something directly from his father&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>side. Absolutely. You know, despite the fact that he took his mother&#8217;s name,<\/p>\n<p>Mountbatten was turned into Mountbatten. But I&#8217;m wondering if there&#8217;s any and he will<\/p>\n<p>during World War Two. Well, he served at the Royal Navy. He was also part of the battle creed and battled Kitimat<\/p>\n<p>and received the Greek Work Prize. And so I&#8217;ve been wondering since given that the British royal family<\/p>\n<p>actually has a very strong connection to Greece through him and there is apparently an official Greek royal<\/p>\n<p>family that I don&#8217;t think very many people know about. Is there any possible role for a monarchy in particular<\/p>\n<p>or maybe like a less used member of the British royal family, like Prince Harry is the sort of<\/p>\n<p>royal family that might be in some way to have seriously potentially useful to griefer in Greece or Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>or Macedonia, whatever they&#8217;ve agreed to call Macedonia. Is there any way that you simply participated?<\/p>\n<p>Werman Let me give you a good guess so I don&#8217;t think I can support a very, very quick. But<\/p>\n<p>when Philip. Became became British,<\/p>\n<p>especially when they married. It was with. They made every possible effort to<\/p>\n<p>separate him from anything to do with the Greek throne. And I<\/p>\n<p>think at that time, the Greek king, Greece, was still on. It was still on the throne.<\/p>\n<p>And if he had any interest in the future of Cyprus. I&#8217;ve never seen it.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t say he did. And I&#8217;ve never seen<\/p>\n<p>anything on that one. It makes you wonder, though. Yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p>Churchill was very interesting during the war, trying to get the Turks to<\/p>\n<p>join the allied side of Cyprus ever in any way<\/p>\n<p>possible bargaining chip. I don&#8217;t think<\/p>\n<p>that the British mind in the 40s earned during the war<\/p>\n<p>ever saw Cyprus as anything but a a Greek island with some Turks on it.<\/p>\n<p>Now, he did a lot of things to bring Turkey into the war, but. And,<\/p>\n<p>you know, we were just talking about cute. There&#8217;s a lot of records in queue. But I<\/p>\n<p>have to say, I&#8217;ve never seen anything on that line. They were always dealing.<\/p>\n<p>With with the Greeks. But the Turks said that if there&#8217;s ever a<\/p>\n<p>change in the status of the island since it was originally Turkish, they expected to be consulted.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, sir. Oh, I got a series of related questions,<\/p>\n<p>sir. First of all, what was the size of British military forces<\/p>\n<p>and what kind of units composed the force? Tanks, artillery, infantry?<\/p>\n<p>What are we talking about here? Talking about. Probably<\/p>\n<p>for. Medium grade British battalions<\/p>\n<p>and a light armored light armored regiment. Plus, a lot of<\/p>\n<p>a lot of this and that. I say there&#8217;s a there was a 1st Battalion, Cyprus Regiment,<\/p>\n<p>which pretty much was designed to go through a<\/p>\n<p>guard. The Copperfield&#8217;s on the on the western part of the island. But<\/p>\n<p>it was never it varied. You know, as the war went on,<\/p>\n<p>but never more than than six battalions. What you<\/p>\n<p>say, 700 to battalion.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t count the site.<\/p>\n<p>How were they supplied? What were the needs of civilian<\/p>\n<p>military at this time? Was were supplied with Jordan, from<\/p>\n<p>Egypt, from the Middle East, where I come from, a lot of stuff<\/p>\n<p>was coming from from Egypt to the Famagusta. Yeah, from Gershon<\/p>\n<p>on the extreme Scheuring eastern coast was was the best port.<\/p>\n<p>Any good food? Yes. Food both ways.<\/p>\n<p>They also. Tie<\/p>\n<p>a tie and bomber landed in Cyprus and of still flyable,<\/p>\n<p>so they loaded up with Cypriot potatoes and sent it to Egypt to sell<\/p>\n<p>Hurum. So it goes both ways. But the island was generally,<\/p>\n<p>generally fed itself and self-sufficient basic.<\/p>\n<p>Basically are they have one of the first innovations of the<\/p>\n<p>of the Cyprus government when when the war broke out, when they diverted<\/p>\n<p>the grape crop or part of it from wine to bread and made<\/p>\n<p>Raisin Bran raisin bread to make the wheat go further and say<\/p>\n<p>such things as that. But generally they generally they fed themselves. There&#8217;s some things they didn&#8217;t raise,<\/p>\n<p>but there were a. There was no family on the island.<\/p>\n<p>Walter Yeah, I haven&#8217;t been to Cyprus yet, but I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s similar to<\/p>\n<p>Haiti, Dominican Republic. Is there a division between the Greek side and the Turkish?<\/p>\n<p>Yes. All intermingled? No, no.<\/p>\n<p>And in 1974 at the time, first degree, so they had then.<\/p>\n<p>Then the Turks invaded and they had a very bloody exchange of populations,<\/p>\n<p>Turks going north, Greeks going south. And they established what they call the Green<\/p>\n<p>Line, which was really just a green magic marker, a map<\/p>\n<p>which became the frontier. And in my days when I was in Cyprus,<\/p>\n<p>it was a guarded frontier where soldiers on both sides, a<\/p>\n<p>buffer zone in between and U.N. soldiers patrolling in between.<\/p>\n<p>Now, it&#8217;s still two states and the line is still there,<\/p>\n<p>but it&#8217;s much more over. For example, a Turk can take a taxi to<\/p>\n<p>A and can work in the south and in Greek Cyprus, Greek can take a taxi. They are to<\/p>\n<p>the airport and fly to somewhere. They couldn&#8217;t do that when I was there. You don&#8217;t really need<\/p>\n<p>a passport. You need a passport. Yeah. It is. It is<\/p>\n<p>a frontier. But it&#8217;s not like the Berlin Wall now anymore. It&#8217;s more more<\/p>\n<p>something you can go through. John,<\/p>\n<p>part of Nicosia on this young Turkish<\/p>\n<p>Youngsville, north coast on the hill. And<\/p>\n<p>you just joined the United Nations. Yes. See you. Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. OK. A school.<\/p>\n<p>And we could only go. Yes. Because the arrangements been made. But I remember<\/p>\n<p>the U.N. soldiers in that year. Yes. Stay with me.<\/p>\n<p>I hate to devolve into the war story, but one thing, my show here is what it was like then. It was a guarded<\/p>\n<p>frontier. No doubt. No doubt about it. But it went through Nicosia.<\/p>\n<p>The buffer zone was it was a kilometer wide. We&#8217;re going through Nicosia. It was<\/p>\n<p>one street and one time. I told some of the old people this<\/p>\n<p>arrived up on a checkpoint on the Greek side. And there<\/p>\n<p>on the Greek side, there was a Greek Cypriots older with rival. Bored<\/p>\n<p>stiff, sir. And you. Oh, and.<\/p>\n<p>Khoza Street. The Turkish Cypriots older and<\/p>\n<p>bored stiff in the center of the Canadian u._n.&#8217;s older, sitting on a chair<\/p>\n<p>with a with a tennis ball thrown at the tennis ball, catching<\/p>\n<p>this cap. The Thinkwell kitchen is camp now. There was a separation. I mean,<\/p>\n<p>they weren&#8217;t shooting at you either. Oh, the time. There was some<\/p>\n<p>violent night. They blew up the hotel. We stayed made<\/p>\n<p>of hydropower, hydropower since the late 90s.<\/p>\n<p>And they&#8217;re always into it. I mean, always.<\/p>\n<p>What I say was was typical. But you didn&#8217;t see it everywhere. There was always.<\/p>\n<p>You know, mining. In fact, when things loosen up a little bit,<\/p>\n<p>the I&#8217;ve got a European effort. They joined the European Union.<\/p>\n<p>They got a European grant to de-mine the Green Zone. The Green Line.<\/p>\n<p>But but they are still separate, but not like not as hostile as they were.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. Yes, ma&#8217;am.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah. The story just told.<\/p>\n<p>I can only give you a heavy dose. I&#8217;ve lost a wolf start to Cyprus.<\/p>\n<p>So that&#8217;s my day, which has changed a lot. Well, since they do<\/p>\n<p>since the demise of the whole of the Cold War, I am told<\/p>\n<p>that the ten million dollars a day in the 90s was coming in the Cyprus<\/p>\n<p>inns and briefcases by Russians. I<\/p>\n<p>don&#8217;t know the line between money laundering and offshore investment,<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t say, but it&#8217;s totally has totally changed since<\/p>\n<p>my days. And for example, the Cyprus bank we hear so much about in my day.<\/p>\n<p>That was where Middle-Class people get to have their savings account. And so it changed.<\/p>\n<p>But the bank from Cyprus, Wilbur Ross.<\/p>\n<p>And there was so much so much I know money there that<\/p>\n<p>when they when the Greek economy collapsed, Cyprus collapsed with it.<\/p>\n<p>And they put a tax on on the bank accounts.<\/p>\n<p>George, I have a question about the early years of the war when the British<\/p>\n<p>actually faced a pretty dangerous situation. They didn&#8217;t know that there was going to be a diversion of German troops<\/p>\n<p>towards the Soviet Union and the danger of invasion seemed very real. And the governor<\/p>\n<p>seemed to think that the morale of the Cypriot population<\/p>\n<p>was very low, in fact. I believe he said that we can&#8217;t really depend<\/p>\n<p>on the day the Cypriots not turning against us. Now, how do you explain such<\/p>\n<p>a low morale on the part of the British population, of the population of Cyprus,<\/p>\n<p>that this is not a very good example of effective colonial administration?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen all of nationalism, and I think I think the point packed was that<\/p>\n<p>the. The British took over Cyprus from the Turks.<\/p>\n<p>Never. You know, the Greeks were not who were not consulted.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not pro-green, I&#8217;m just giving my my analysis. But the Greeks never felt that this was there,<\/p>\n<p>that the Clinton administration was there. Their war had very<\/p>\n<p>little loyalty to it or whatever. And<\/p>\n<p>there they felt that they were Greeks living living in Cyprus. And<\/p>\n<p>so they they never had any particular interest in furthering British<\/p>\n<p>interest. Now, there were a couple of prominent Cypriot families<\/p>\n<p>who were very pro-British for their own loyally pro-British. And a couple<\/p>\n<p>of them were trying to mediate.<\/p>\n<p>But they were sort of frozen, frozen out. No sympathy with<\/p>\n<p>me. I&#8217;m sorry. No sympathy with mainland. Yeah. The ship to with mainland.<\/p>\n<p>They feel we are Greeks. Yeah. What about the Turks? Turks.<\/p>\n<p>They are a little more ambivalent. They never think<\/p>\n<p>they were a minority. They did what they had to go button to get by.<\/p>\n<p>They never.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think they felt they were hyper shirks and they expected me<\/p>\n<p>to be recognized as such, but they never had the feeling<\/p>\n<p>that the Greeks did that they were just really Greeks who are in the wrong place. Did they resent the Brits? The Turks?<\/p>\n<p>Not much. They.<\/p>\n<p>You probably saw the Brits as a. Guarding against the Greeks.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, sir. For an hour or so before<\/p>\n<p>I go to the library and catch up on the periodicals today,<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve sold one titled Cyphers Today. I thought perfect I&#8217;d never seen before.<\/p>\n<p>So I pointed out that the last issue was from 2014.<\/p>\n<p>So it depends on how you define today, I guess. And then leafing through it,<\/p>\n<p>it seemed to be all Greek. Yeah. And so I&#8217;m wondering, are<\/p>\n<p>there any efforts to integrate or accommodate or include<\/p>\n<p>the two nationalities at all? Not really. Publication? Not really. It&#8217;s like United<\/p>\n<p>States and Canada. There are two separate countries represented. The U.N.,<\/p>\n<p>right. Representing the U.N. Is Greek Cyprus. OK.<\/p>\n<p>And the what they call the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has<\/p>\n<p>diplomatic relations with. With Turkey. And<\/p>\n<p>they&#8217;re talking about a couple of the Turkic states and the. post-Soviet Union?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think so. Solidify that or not, but there are they&#8217;re isolated.<\/p>\n<p>An interesting thing to me. I don&#8217;t really understand all these things,<\/p>\n<p>but the EU considers the Turkish Cypriots as<\/p>\n<p>as members of the EU.<\/p>\n<p>Based on the fact that as far as you&#8217;re concerned, the island, the island joined the EU.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s the breakdown of life? I can&#8217;t<\/p>\n<p>give you numbers. It&#8217;s about. Sixty five percent, 35<\/p>\n<p>percent. About the<\/p>\n<p>happened at the time of the collapse of the economy and they quit doing that. That was the last that was the last copy. Yes,<\/p>\n<p>ma&#8217;am.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sorry. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s there&#8217;s a lot of other religions in the<\/p>\n<p>in Cyprus besides a besides a mostly Greek, Greek, Cypriot, Greek<\/p>\n<p>Orthodox. And they&#8217;re broken. They they know who they are and they&#8217;re very concerned about their rights.<\/p>\n<p>And I can name a few and there&#8217;s probably some. I&#8217;ll miss them there with a couple. The Latvians<\/p>\n<p>who are Catholics who are descendants of the crusaders. There&#8217;s the eastern<\/p>\n<p>right Catholics. There&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>what they call the middle bimbo coin, which is Lindsay Willman Woolsey, which was sort of a<\/p>\n<p>mix Turkish or Greek Orthodox<\/p>\n<p>Muslim. And there&#8217;s there&#8217;s nurses, there&#8217;s a few of these. These are small<\/p>\n<p>in numbers, but they&#8217;re very, very. They know exactly<\/p>\n<p>who they are. And they&#8217;re out there are part of these other communities. And I&#8217;ll tell you so I think<\/p>\n<p>we&#8217;re coming to our last question. Just after my comment,<\/p>\n<p>January 2013 went on a tourist to North Cyprus. And I was<\/p>\n<p>I was surprised to hear you say that the E.U. considers Turkish Cypriots as citizens,<\/p>\n<p>because as we are going across the street about if we got our passport<\/p>\n<p>stamped by the northern Cypriot side, then the EU wouldn&#8217;t go in.<\/p>\n<p>And this week, I got. But I&#8217;m just right<\/p>\n<p>that they consider the Turkish Cypriot. Right. They.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t get into the citizenship, but they can tell him there&#8217;s a lot of EU aid projects<\/p>\n<p>and Turkish Cyprus. But they they give the EU considers<\/p>\n<p>that the. The whole island<\/p>\n<p>is in the EU. I don&#8217;t know which you&#8217;ll be a Turks it or not.<\/p>\n<p>George, Alaska. Next to the last question, I guess I<\/p>\n<p>thought back in the day the Turkish population was much more of<\/p>\n<p>It depends on who you ask. I think today I&#8217;ll think about today because there&#8217;s hope<\/p>\n<p>that all the Turks have moved into knowing more. It was more like a.<\/p>\n<p>But there&#8217;s been a lot of immigration in the Turkish Cyprus and one that I<\/p>\n<p>know it. Of Bulgaria, Bulgaria and Turks were expelled from Bulgaria<\/p>\n<p>and they were relocated in the Turkish Cyprus. Of course, there&#8217;s a good there&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>a Turkish garrison for my forty thousand year, 4000 soldiers there. George,<\/p>\n<p>last question, an entirely different subject. The literary dimension. Tell us your<\/p>\n<p>views about Lawrence Durrell. They&#8217;re not going to be very popular.<\/p>\n<p>OK. I write. Of course, every time you<\/p>\n<p>got it, you got to read better weapons. Go do it.<\/p>\n<p>I thought he was the typical condescending British<\/p>\n<p>journalists wonder. Yeah, that&#8217;s my<\/p>\n<p>opinion. I can&#8217;t prove it. You know it. That&#8217;s why I got out of it.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re very, very condescending. 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