Shaw and McDaniel take a look at updates on the Democratic and Republican national conventions, healthcare mergers, voter ID laws in Texas, and Michael Jordan’s recent donation.
Hosts
Daron ShawProfessor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin
Eric McDanielAssociate Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin
In the news.
Hello, I’m Professor Shaw. And I’m Professor McDaniel. Welcome to IN THE NEWSROOM, American and Texas government.
So it’s been a week, right? Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of things going.
Also today, we’re going to discuss the kind of the end of the Republican National Convention
and then we’ll talk about the early days. The Democratic National Convention will move more kind of to specific policy
issues, specifically what we’re seeing in Gaza through the bomb registration and health insurance companies. Also,
the court’s ruling regarding Texas voter I.D. laws, considering this is campaign
season in some of the complexities with that and my gold medal picks for the upcoming Olympics.
That’s right. All right. So again, Rio is only a few weeks away. Don’t
drink the water. Please don’t go. Yeah. So
let’s start off with the RNC we talked about a little bit last week, specifically focusing on kind of the gaffe
you had with the plagiarism of a speech. But, you know, think these things happen,
but there’s still some more controversy. And really the big controversy was with our old senator Ted
Cruz and his unwillingness to endorse Donald Trump.
Let’s roll that clip to protect our God given rights,
even of those with whom we don’t agree. So that when
we are old and gray. And when our work is done
and we give those we love one final kiss goodbye.
We will be able to say freedom matters.
And I was part of something beautiful.
The case we have to make to the American people the case.
Each person in this room has to make to the American people is to
commit to each of them, that we will defend freedom and
be faithful to the Constitution.
We will unite the party, we will unite the country by standing together
for shared values, by standing for liberty. God bless
each and every one of you. And God bless the United States of America.
So when you say God bless and everybody figures out he’s done
and he has not endorsed the nominee. That’s when you get the cascade of boos. So
it’s a little bit of an irony or an interesting juxtaposition here between the Republican the Democratic
conventions and the you know, Ted Cruz got booed for not endorsing Donald Trump.
Bernie Sanders and others got booed for endorsing Hillary Clinton. So I’m not quite sure
what you can do as a losing candidate to come off very well. But, you
know, yeah, I mean, it’s also the timing is a little bit weird because I think this was on the third day before
the convention, whereas the Democrats, they got all that out the first day.
And so it was kind of weird, like we were going along, going along. Oh, Ted Cruz, come in. So this is kind of seen as,
OK. Let’s. Finally, get the U.N. to go on then. Ted Cruz doesn’t do it.
I mean, again, he makes. He makes a speech and clearly he’s pivoting for twenty twenty
or twenty, twenty four. But it’s clear he wants to make it make. He wants to stand
out with his speech. Well you know, look, I’ll let you know a little bit of inside baseball
here. I mean a lot of this is floor management. All right. So what you see in the Republican convention
is Professor McGann McDaniel mentioned this is day three that Ted Cruz is speaking to the to the convention crowd, I think
was day three of a day to think was day three. And at that point, you know, the the
K-6 supporters, all 15 of them, the Cruz supporters, have basically left. There’s not that many
of them to begin with. The place is dominated by supporters of the nominee. You know, Donald Trump. So
the places is crackling with people who have an allegiance and affinity for Donald Trump. And so Ted Cruz gets
up there and gives, you know, what he and his supporters probably think is an intellectually honest speech, you
know, saying vote your conscience as opposed to, you know, vote for Donald Trump. And that’s just not
going to go over very well on the Democratic side. The problems he had on Monday morning, the first day of the speech,
were because the Sanders supporters had kind of worked their way down to the front
of the stadium in Philadelphia, the arena in Philadelphia, and were protesting
and yelling and getting a lot of airtime. But by Monday night, by the time Michelle Obama and others spoke,
those people had been cleared out. They had been induced, cajoled.
Use your verb of preference or choice. But they’ve gotten them the heck off of center stage,
moved them up a little bit, so that by the time the primetime speeches were on speeches between,
you know, I guess 7:00 o’clock Central Time and 9:00 Central Time, they were kind of out. So I
think that the floor management dynamics are as important here as anything else. There’s a lot of talk and we’ll get into this about
the Democratic convention, about how the delegates were turned by the words of Michelle
Obama. Michelle Obama gave a wonderful speech. You don’t convince Bernie supporters, you know, hey,
you know what? I really do like Hillary. That did not happen. What happened was mechanically,
those people were moved to the rafters so they weren’t going to mess up the Democrats optics on the Monday
night. But I’m not I love persuasion and speeches, but let’s be real
here. So bear it. The curse. I don’t know. You know, to Professor Dan’s
point, about twenty twenty or twenty twenty four. I don’t think that speech hurts him in Texas.
You know, I don’t think it really does much damage to him nationally. In fact, if Trump
goes down in flames, you know, people might look back on that kind of favorably stood up before a convention
and refuse to endorse a guy he didn’t believe in. You know, who knows?
Yeah. I mean, the issue is this isn’t part of the problem he has is that people been arguing
that Trump is not a true conservative. And Ted Cruz is really saying, look, to really move
this nation forward. There are certain ideals we need to uphold. And these are the ideals I’m going
to uphold. Donald Trump may not uphold them as well as I would like so I can endorse. Some of that is also
personal part about this. I mean, the man went after his wife and his father and the
kids and crew and his kids. And so it it got personal. And it wasn’t,
you know, like said, I don’t like he was Ted. Don’t like you. I don’t like your wife. I’m like your kids. I’m like
your daddy. I don’t like your dog. I don’t like your dogs, mom. I mean, it got like real
personal. And that’s an end. The problem was, instead of.
Trump kind of backing down from that. After all of this, he reiterated. Yeah, I think is the
actual JFK, he was like, no. Like, just just let it go. And that
became kind of a that was a big issue. I mean, and you know, and make basically, I’m not gonna be bullied
into this. I’m not going to support somebody who goes after my family, you know? So think
of me as the Liam Neeson of the Republican Party. Yeah. It’s it’s, you
know, sort of the farseeing dynamic. You don’t see it very often. It’s kind of funny. I heard a line that I thought was pretty good, which
is, you know, typically we think of these conventions as being, you know, reality TV.
But of course, they’re not they’re sort of prepackaged and planned by. Well, have a problem with that.
You know, I don’t think it’s ridiculous every four years to allow the political parties to make their case directly
to the American people. I don’t know. I don’t have a fear of being manipulated at parties or communicating or trying
to put on their best face. Doesn’t bother me. That’s happening. But but that prepackaged
element in sort of veneer to these conventions, which has been dominant really for the last 30, 40 years,
this one really was a reality show. You know, I don’t think Trump’s people had a tight
control over it. I don’t know how you have tight control over Trump anyway. I was stunned
during his speech, which we’ll get to in a second. That he was able to actually read the speech. I
just assumed he was going to go robe three or four or five times over the course of that thing.
So, you know, I guess kudos to him for doing that. But, you know, I don’t know people. I don’t know if they objected,
but people sort of commented about it was rough. And they’re the sort of Wild West element to it.
It’s funny. That’s what the networks are always clamoring for. But when they get it, they talk about how it’s
evidence that, you know, there’s a sensible course, there’s dissension and lack of control. And, you know, so
I don’t know, watching the Democratic Republican conventions, it sort of strikes me that you’re damned if you do, damned
if you don’t. If you’re to control. They don’t like that. If you’re kind of rough around the edges and things happen.
Well, that’s not good either. You know, who knows what it’s like when Heraldo
had that final here show. Everybody condemned it, but then everybody started watching her world. Lost it
in the numbers for the Trump speech or were off the charts. It’s it’s the most viewed convention
speech in history. My guess is it will get more eyeballs than Hillary Clinton’s speech will
this coming week, even though that’ll be a, you know, a well-watched speech as well.
You know, it was something. So we got we do have some clips of The Donald or clip of the Donald speech.
So so here are some excerpts from Donald Trump’s speech. Hey, I take
the oath of office. Americans will finally wake up
in a country where the laws of the United States are enforced.
Donald Trump had delegate to the Republican National Convention on their feet roaring in an
emotional speech pitched as much of the audience at home as those in the arena
say. USA. USA. Trump laid out a laundry list of things
he wants to do, but first things first. He said he wants to make people feel safe and the
crime and violence on our streets beginning on January 20th of
That’s the day the next president takes the oath of office. And when Trump stressed safety, he also meant
safety from terrorism. He blamed Democrat Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of
state, for the spread of ISIS after four years of Hillary Clinton.
Why do we have death, destruction, terrorism
and weakness? Let’s defeat her. In November, Trump offered
a plan to protect the nation from terrorism. We must have the best,
absolutely the best gathering of talent, intelligence anywhere
in the world. We must work with all of our allies who share our
goal of destroying ISIS and stamping out Islamic
terrorism and doing it now. That’s actually a plan
for the safety you’re defeating ISIS. But, you know, gathering intelligence
and working with allies, I guess that’s the broad contours of a plan. So Trump’s law
and order candidate. You know, it’s interesting to watch the two conventions side by side
or, you know, back to back and see the different emphases. Right. The Republicans have
Trump in particular talked about on the law and order candidate. I’m going to defend you from ISIS.
Right. Sort of intuiting that this is the top thing that people are concerned about. This is what the
focus needs to be in the campaign. Whereas if you watch the Democratic convention, I think on Monday night, Trump
tweeted this, you know, there was not a single mention of ISIS. You know, the Democratic convention
has been mostly about bringing people together, moving forward together. The country’s
not in that bad of shape. So it’s two very different tones to
this. And the main criticism of Trump’s speech in the Republican convention that I discern
was that it was too dark, that it was too negative, and sort of painted
a picture of America in crisis. And you know, that that disturbs some of the pundits,
people who thought that that wouldn’t work well or would not resonate with voters. But I guess it’s a matter of interpretation,
right? I mean, who who’s got a better sense, who’s got their finger on the pulse of the country right now? Is is
is it the Republicans and Trump who’ve, you know, are counting on the fact that people are afraid?
People are kind of angry. People are not happy. Or is it the Democrats who seem
to think that, well, you know, there’s some anxiety, but mostly people think we’re moving in the right direction and they’re offering,
you know, kind of a more optimistic take on how things are going. Yeah, I mean, listen to that.
The thing about it is if the Democrats, they want to say now things are going well because you got a Democratic
president in office. So you’re like, oh, God, the world’s going to hell. And it’s like, but he was
the president of your the president from your party. Let me just your fault. So you can’t you can’t really
say, I don’t know the things that things are going well, you know, whereas if you want change, you do that. So if you think about
Obama in 2008, I mean, his was he was very critical,
like here’s what we’re doing wrong. Here’s what we’re doing wrong and all these different places, you know, whereas I think McCain
was still was critical because he wasn’t part of the administration. But he also wasn’t going to, you know, say, oh, no,
no, we’re all going to hell in a handbasket. And so part of it is, you know, when you want to bring a new party
and you got to make the old party look horrible, and this and this makes this makes sense. And again, there
probably can be disagreements between Obama and Clinton on a lot of things we’re seeing with the TPP.
There are differences there. But for the most part, they don’t know where
we’re heading in the right direction. And I’m going to keep that going. You saw the same thing with Gore in 2000.
You saw the same thing with Bush, one after after Reagan that, you know,
the idea that we keep things going. I think things are going well. Whereas everybody else is preaching gloom
and doom. However, I think we can argue that Trump is a little more heavy handed in his gloom
and doom than others have been in the past. I think that’s right. Just a couple points. Differences. You know, if we’re talking about historical analogies,
the one that I kept thinking of is 1968. And people talked about,
you know, this summer as being in some ways analogous to 1960. I don’t think it’s quite that
revolutionary apology to Bernie Sanders. But, you know, in 1968, you had
Hubert Humphrey running as kind of the heir to the Johnson administration, which had, you know, these sort of
terrific domestic policy successes, you know, an active civil rights record, but was handling
an unpopular war. Johnson wasn’t running for reelection. Humphrey was kind of the heir to the throne.
And Richard Nixon came along and was talking about being the representative, the silent majority
and the law and order candidates, you know, and so was was appealing directly, those sorts of voters
who were uncomfortable with these sorts of rebellions in the streets, riots,
you know, actions against the police. You know, the disorder that a lot of people thought
was going on. So I lost sixty eight strikes me has been coming. And that, of course, turned out to be an extremely close election
with Nixon just edging Humphrey by a point and half. We may be headed kind of in a direction
like that on the notion of sort of points and, you know, margins. I would point out
that the preliminary polling evidence suggests that Trump got a modest but
statistically real bounce. You know, it’s not just noise in the polls. He did seem to get a bump
from his convention bump, meaning an increase in his standing in the polls. It’s not clear exactly
where the race is right now. Everybody shows at pump that Trump improved his standing.
But some of those polls, for instance, show that he was down eight and now he’s tied. Well, that’s a bump,
but you’re tied. And the Democrats have had their chance here. Others showed he was down two or three and now
he’s up two or three, which again, is a bump that actually takes him into the lead.
You know, my guess, reading an aggregation of the polls is that Trump’s up a point or two right now.
But I think that’s meaningless until the end of the Democratic convention when Hillary’s had her chance
and we can kind of see where the race stands. You know, I think that race will probably be pretty much frozen.
So beginning next week, when you see polls coming out, if they show Hillary up a couple points,
I think he can probably take it to the bank. She’s going to be up a point or two on Labor Day, which is when the real general
election campaign begins. Same with Trump. If Trump is up. That race will probably frozen because
the Olympics are happening. Football starts, school starts. People pay a little less attention to politics.
The candidates themselves aren’t as active. And so. So I think that’s probably the state of the
race. One last comment, though, about, you know, Professor McDaniel mentions exactly right.
And respect to the Democrats painting the sort of rosier picture. You know, traditionally
we think of the kind of campaign that Hillary Clinton’s going to run is been again, using historical
analogy compared to the Morning in America campaign that Ronald Reagan ran when he was running for
reelection, 1984. Right. That we had turned the corner. Things were going well and it was tight.
It was important to stay the course, to consolidate the gains that had been made. You know,
I’ve I’ve got a little bit of a question about whether that works for Democrats as well as it does for Republicans.
There’s something about the Democratic Party, its coalition, the elements of that party, which include
racial, ethnic minorities. You know, people, disabilities, people of different sexual orientations
that coalition, I think is less amenable, less receptive to the argument
that things are going great. You know, we’ve turned the corner. Everything is fine. America
is wonderful. There’s something. You know, the Republican Party seems more comfortable with that kind of rhetoric
than the Democratic Party, which oftentimes involved is involved putting together a coalition of people
who have historically been disadvantaged. So I wonder about a, you know, a Morning
in America campaign. You know, when your coalitions when your coalition really
has serious grievances still with, you know, the way things have gone historically in the
United States, that’s speculation on my part. But I think it’s kind of be kind
of interesting to watch this play out. Yeah, I mean, I guess one way you can interpret is it could be worse. All right.
Keep us here or gets worse. It’s not great now, but it could be
much worse if Trump gets in there. And that’s kind of the rudder people are going with. It’s you
have a bunch people’s MITCHARD. How many times Hillary Clinton’s name was mentioned?
You know, not Trump, but when the RNC was like, OK, yeah. He may not be the best, but at least he’s not Hillary
Clinton. And I think Hillary Clinton at times trying to win over the Bernie supporters by saying, hey, I’m not Trump,
but we’ll have to see how this all plays out. Now, moving
on to the DNC, we got some we got some important news this week.
Hillary Clinton picked her vise presidential candidate. Who was it? It was Cain.
Cain? That’s right. And so as you see, you see pictured here, this is what I originally
thought it was. And I thought it was you know, I thought it was Hillary Clinton, Big Daddy Kane.
That would be a bold pick. That’s bold pick cotton. That’s what I was. That’s what I was hoping for. So
those of you are familiar with Big Cain. Let me give you a little bit a taste of what your vise president should have
been.
With this city of late nights and
drops of Smoove lyrics 88, Tom set a straight non-slave.
I’m ready to step in. He didn’t want to change
the outcome. They can’t.
That’s what I was in college when life was good. Yes. Yes. But
no, we were wrong. She chose Tim Kaine. So who is Tim
Kaine, you ask? Well, I have some information for you. So he’s a former governor of Virginia
and he’s currently in the Senate representing Virginia. Now, Kaine sticks
out because he’s never lost an election, so he’s undefeated
in political campaigns. There is Trump, as it turns out, that this will won’t become when he ran
in 2000. Well, but one of the things about
him that that hurts him is that he is not a darling of the extreme left. So Bernie
Sanders supporters weren’t so happy about because he’s much more moderate. Furthermore, he’s
showing tepid support for the TPP, but is actually backed off of that. And he’s
not been so supportive of regulating banks, specifically the small banks and credit unions. And so because
of that, because of his Wall Street ties, he’s been questioned. But addition to that, he
he is he’s much like Joe Biden since that he’s talked about he’s personally opposed to abortion.
And as governor of Virginia, he actually made ex put some laws in place to try to
necessarily make abortions more difficult. But medical procedures, he did abstinence only sex
education, but removed that when he found that studies found that it was not effective.
What? Since he’s been in the Senate, though, he has actually been very supportive of
of approach. Pro-Choice groups
shows you and shows you how early I got up this morning talking to the pro-choice groups.
So he’s actually been very liberal on that, even though he’s personally against that. Also, he’s
opposed the death penalty. And that was one of the big things in his running for governor is he said, personally, I’m opposed to the death
penalty. But there are still 11 executions while he was governor. It did not
stop that. He said, look, I’m here to uphold the law. I will uphold the law. And so because of that, he’s kind of an interesting,
interesting figure. People paint him as being boring. And Hillary Clinton.
That’s good. Given the controversy she’s had. Boring. You taste fabulous right now.
Yeah. I think the contrast between Cain and Trump, I think is what she’s going after. You know,
it used to be that vise presidential candidates were almost exclusively chosen because of
their state affiliations. The idea was you would John Kennedy chose Lyndon Johnson because he thought
Johnson would help him carry Texas, which he did. You know, this was, in fact, the case
up until probably I think 1992 might be the year in which it really changed when Bill
Clinton was a young Southern kind of moderate governor, chose Al Gore,
who at that point, before he started growing a beard and traveling on Southwest Airlines, was also a young,
moderate Southern governor. And so instead of, you know, from Tennessee.
So instead of going for someone to balance the ticket or bring a particular state,
he doubled down on, you know, his his calling card, his credentials as president. Right. George
W. Bush picked Dick Cheney from the, you know, awesomely powerful state of Wyoming. No offense to
my Wyoming friends out there in 2000. It wasn’t to bring Wyoming into the fold. It was because
Cheney brought gravitas, experience and foreign policy. You know, that Bush needed
when he’s running for president. So so here now, this is a little, little bit of a throwback
in the sense that I think Hillary does want help in Virginia. It’s a key battleground state.
Kaine is popular in Virginia. I’m a little skeptical that Kaine helps her carry
Virginia. I think she either carries Virginia or loses it on her own. But that is certainly a plus.
There’s a little bit strategic in size. Professor McDaniel suggested here if she did go with Big Daddy Kane,
that’s that’s a roll the dice. Right. That suggests, you know, she has to mobilize a group appeal to millennials
or Gen X to get that Xers actual people who are big in 80s
pop. Yeah, but she doesn’t do that. She goes with the sort of white moderate,
you know, a popular governor. So to me, that reveals she’s pretty confident about where
she stands. Right. She didn’t go with the Hooli on Castro. You know, she didn’t go with an Elizabeth Warren
or Bernie Sanders. You know, it seems to me that she her reading of the race right
now is she’s got a little bit of a lead. She’s going to play it safe. She’s going to play a conservative.
You know, and then, by the way, I think that’s probably an accurate read on the race, although a female
drops, keep coming out. Who knows what’s going to happen. Yeah. We’ll get to that in just a second, because.
Oh, what a way to make it make a mess
out of this. We want to go to Debbie. We’ll go to Debbie is sick. But I guess one thing I want to point out is everybody’s upset
about. Not bringing in Elizabeth Warren and others like that is more than you have to realize is that
Elizabeth Warren is the kind of person on the loudspeaker yelling and screaming,
sitting out these tweets. A trump card of the of the progressives. If she moves,
become vise president, vise president candidate. Well, the problem is she moves into the administration in many ways that
actually muzzles her because she has to work with the administration. So because because she can stand on the outside
and yell at me, people like she can stand outside, yell and scream. But the problem
is she moves into the administration. She can’t do that anymore, because now she has to uphold the administration.
And so, yes, day there’s a tradeoff here. Furthermore, you don’t want to pull people out that have
powerful positions that can help you get things done in Congress. So you don’t want to take somebody who’s making the deals.
Everything like that out because who’s going to replace them? And so there’s a strategy there
in terms of who would be a good vise presidential pick. But also, you know, who can I
pull out of Congress that does not weaken the
strength of my party or my bill to get things done when I’m in there. So it’s it’s a strategic thing. But also,
those of you like Elizabeth Warren and like Elizabeth Warren is doing. You don’t want her to become vise president because
she can’t do those things anymore. Professor Regales, he’s a policy guy. I’m a elections guy.
He’s talked about the policy implications of getting Warren out of the Senate, for instance, into a V.P. position.
I’ll go to the political side of that, which is you’re forfeiting a Democratic seat. Now it’s Massachusetts. They probably
elect a Democrat. There’s a Democratic governor with the extra Republican governor at this point
in Massachusetts. So. So it would it would be a Republican replacing
Elizabeth Warren. And then that person would have a leg up. So you lose the seat in the Senate and there’s a close battle for the
Senate right now. You know, I think, you know, the Burtis,
the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren speeches on Monday night at the convention, which we’ll talk about
here in a second. You know, we’re very interesting and we’ll talk about those. I actually happen to think Elizabeth Warren
is overrated as a politician. I think Bernie Sanders is a little overrated as a politician. People
gonna hate me for that. But if you actually look at the speech, I mean, Elizabeth Warren lost to Scott
Brown in Massachusetts, a very liberal state. You know, I’m much quite
sure how effective she actually is at making the case that Hillary Clinton wants to make
in the fall. I think she’s probably better as a as a second tier surrogate as opposed to a V.P. pick. But
I’ve been wrong about this stuff before. Speaking of people who may not be the best surrogates, do we want to roll
the Austrian show? Let’s see what happened on their way to Philadelphia
today when just hours after calling for the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz,
she announced she’ll resign following the Democratic National Convention. This after leaked emails
suggested party officials were mocking the Vermont senator. The emails reportedly went as far to consider
using Sanders religious beliefs against his campaign and show top DNC officials using their
efforts to aid Clinton. Sanders was disappointed by the emails, but said he wasn’t surprised
as he warned a long time ago. The DNC wasn’t running a fair operation, he added. A function
of the DNC is to represent all of the candidates and to be fair and even minded. shelties resignation
comes one day before the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia begins.
So Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who’s head of the Democratic National Committee, Democratic Party,
was roundly booed when she tried to address a preliminary meeting. She resigned,
but said while resigning. But I’ll give up my seat after the convention. She said she
was gonna gavel the convention open and didn’t go over real well. She was absolutely
know, mercilessly booed by Bernie Sanders and other supporters of different
candidates and factions in the party. And she had to resign immediately. She was replaced by Donna Brazile,
who is a longtime Democratic operative whose credentials are really in field organization.
You guys may have seen her on CNN and other shows like that. A very classic,
you know, looking black lady with beautiful hair. I can listen to her read the phone book. She’s actually various.
She’s got that silver hair down. Yeah. Know she’s got a good look and a good feel. And immediately
what what Brazil did was immediately. Well and apologized. Not only collectively, she took responsibility
as head of the DNC. She apologized to all the Sanders supporters for what had what had gone down
and then started calling up Sanders supporters and individually apologizing to them. So a lot of damage control,
I think, from what I’ve heard, very effective damage control by Donna Brazil in the aftermath. So what happened?
Well, WikiLeaks struck again. WikiLeaks dumped a whole series of
emails from the Democratic National Committee that were sent out over the course of the primary
process. Many of them indicating that people at the Democratic National Committee. Now didn’t like Bernie
Sanders, but were kind of actively looking to obstruct Bernie Sanders and his campaign.
Where do the leaks come from? A lot of rumors out there that the Russians hacked and. The DNC
system and the Russians provided these emails to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks denies
that the Russians are the source, although they don’t really want to get too into it, because if they start denying
person X, Y and Z, it might mean that person A becomes a parent.
The Democrats picked up on the Russia angle and said, are the Russians
right? Want Donald Trump to be president? So the Russians hacked the DNC
Web site and infrastructure at the Web site there. Their communications network
took these out, held them until this point, and then released them right before
the Democratic convention to embarrass Hillary Clinton, to pave the way so that Donald and Putin
could work together in a way that would advantage Russia. I’m going to diagram
this later on my Maddin telestrator, but this story got picked up quite
a bit. So part of the controversy is about the democratic process, Democratic
Party process being unfair. And Sanders saying, see, I told you it was rigged.
Look at these emails. And another part of the controversy is, hey, man, the Russians are
pretty good at this. By the way, if this is true and not not say that, I believe
two things. I believe the Russians did this because I grew up in the rocky 4
era. When this is what the Russians did, but that the Russians have this kind of insight
into the American political process, I’m a little dubious about that. Maybe
they want Donelle out Kwinto. Why they want Donelle over Hillary. But OK, that part of it.
I’m a little confused about so. Well, Assange, actually, the founder of WikiLeaks,
actually admitted that he e waited about six weeks to release them. He wanted to. You want to have some
timing because he didn’t what? He didn’t like Hillary Clinton because he saw Hillary Clinton’s one, the
people going after him for the WikiLeaks. And so he like I don’t know what I would get with Donald
Trump, but I normally get with Hillary Clinton. So supposedly Putin doesn’t like Hillary Clinton
either. Yeah, right. That she’s he thought that she meant that the
United States and Hillary in particular meddled in one of his election pits, although
I didn’t actually know he was really elected. But I mean, it’s funny because
last time I checked, he keeps stepping down from positions but still stays in power.
So it changes the constitution so that whatever position he’s in is a position of power,
which is, you know. Yes. I think bigger change when he goes to whoever’s in charge of the DMV is
in charge of everything. I mean, again, if you if you watch those Russians driving videos,
whoever’s in charge of the DMV, they might need a new one. But one thing
I guess that sticks out about this is that Julian Assange is try to say, no, I’m just here for the truth. Is any other I’m just
I’m a victim in all of this. But he’s openly stated, no, I’m using this as a weapon, you know, to
go after people who I think are against my answer. So he loses some level of he lose
some credibility there. Now, let’s move back to the actual convention and
the fallout from this. And so what you saw within the first days and attempt to try to bring everybody together
and you saw from where’s Bernie supporters going out and trying to do this. So one particular
person, a person in particular is comedian Silver Sarah Silverman, who made the following
statement. I will vote for Hillary with gusto.
As I continue to be inspired and moved to action by the ideals
set forth by Bernie, who will never stop fighting for. I
am proud to be a part of Bernie’s movement. And a vital part of that movement
is making absolutely sure that Hillary Clinton is our next president of the United States.
Are probably.
To the Bernie or bust people. You’re being ridiculous.
OK. So you say two two things going on there. One,
bad timing because you had here the breakup cut off my speech. Now we have a stretch.
That should have been picked up on the mike. But it’s very clear that timing wasn’t right. To
Sarah Silverman was saying, look, I supported Bernie. I’m willing to support, you know, and
I guess the arguments of Sarah Silverman says you’re ridiculous. It might be something wrong here. So
it’s an interesting attempt to do this on the first. Now, again, as FACA pointed out, it calm
down, but really what was going on as they were positioned in the place where the cameras could pick them up easily
as the night went on? They got moved back to where the cameras couldn’t pick him up
as the California delegation was really out of control, which is ironic because California voted
for Hillary Clinton. So presumably the majority of delegates from California were for Clinton,
but it was the California Bernie supporters who were just, you know, rocking the house and they kept moving
the California delegation further and further back. Well, I like I liked Al
Franken’s attempt to turn a Bernie chant into a Hillary is Bernie Bernholz as Hillary is
like, no, that’s Bernie. I was listening pretty carefully. It was not a Hillary chant. And
there’s something about apparently if your initials are SS, so you’ve got Sarah Silverman, Susan Sarandon,
if your initials are SS, apparently you’re really predisposed to support Bernie. This was kind of hailed
as a turning point in the convention. Sarah Silverman dressing down the delegates,
the Bernie supporters. And you know, this is over interpretation as far as I’m concerned.
You know, the idea that Bernie Sanders supporters who are so sort of zealous in their support would say, oh, man, you know,
Sarah Silverman is right on being ridiculous. I need to vote for Hillary.
Come on. You know, that did not happen. What would, of course, logistically happened was
they were vamping up there because Paul Simon wasn’t ready to go on and singing bridge over troubled water,
which, by the way, the only thing they really would’ve worked on Monday night is if Art Garfunkel had come out to sing
that with him, which would have showed reconciliation. Right. Simon and Garfunkel coming together
to sing Bridge Over Troubled Water. You see, I’m bringing this all back home. That would have really
worked. But Paul Simon wasn’t ready to go on. By the way, I love Paul Simon. I saw that bass about
a month and a half ago. It was fantastic. God, it was an awful rendition of Bridge Over Troubled Water.
It’s you know, you need Art Garfunkel there to sing that song. You know, Paul, God bless him. He’s 70 years old.
He shouldn’t sing that song anymore. But, you know, this is what happens sometimes at conventions.
The Democrats notoriously go long on their conventions. And, you know, that’s part
of the charm of the Democratic Party, is they’re never on time. So Al Franken and Sarah Silverman, who are
up there making the case that Donald Trump was unqualified to be president. Al Franken, former SNL cast member who is
now in the Senate making the case that Donald Trump is not qualified to be hold public office. I found kind of ironic,
but I guess it’s the presidency versus the Senate. So. All right. Oh, is this his second term, though?
Right. Al Franken has been around a while and has barely a pretty good reputation in the Senate
for as mayor effect. He’s got a reputation for a decidedly unfunny in the Senate. He’s a very serious guy. Yes.
Now. But all that went on. And then you and
one thing it’s important to note is a lot of people are saying that it wasn’t as controversial as they were making out to be
a small cadre of people. So we’re like they were fistfights breaking out. You had as a small much people
who were able to get in position with the mikes and the cameras could easily see them. And it
wasn’t as cantankerous as the media one to make it out to be. But again, it’s also the first
day. And so what you do the first days, you yell, you scream. And then by the end, like, oh, I love you. I
love you, too. Or you go home. And, you know, I think that’s why the second
day got. Let’s make a comment. Commerce light went on for the shop, not because of logistics. They moved
away. And I think by the second day, I get a little bit calmer because,
you know, I think much more issue focused and, you know, it became
a little more directed. Now, while also we’ll be seen trying to
reconcile this is Bernie Sanders came out the first night and endorsed Hillary
Clinton. So let’s hear what some of us what some of what Senator Sanders comments.
It is no secret that Hillary Clinton and I disagree on a number of issues.
That is what this campaign has been about. That is what democracy
is about. But I’m happy to tell you that the Democratic
Platform Committee, there was a significant coming together
between the two campaigns and we produced by far the most
progressive platform and history of the Democratic Party.
All right, so Sanders kind of what he says there is I got what I wanted. You know, I influence
the platform. I got Hillary to take on a set of positions that are consistent with my positions. The
speech was probably pretty much what Hillary wanted. I’m at both a war and I’ll get back to the Warren and
the Sanders speeches, you know, kind of showed some interesting things to me. They show why
I think in some sense I’ve made the case I’m sorry to offend people, that they’re sort of overrated
in some sense because the causes that they champion are passionate and popular.
People sort of assume that they’re, you know, really, really charismatic, telegenic speakers.
They’re really not. You know, Sanders and Warren spend most their speeches Monday night reciting
a list of policy positions that they’re really excited about and committed to. And I don’t I’m not
knocking that. I’m just talking about from kind of an energy standpoint, an optics standpoint. So the
more Bernie’s speech went on, the more you realize it was basically his standard stump speech. You know, break up the banks,
free college, you know, the set of positions that have gotten people really energized about the campaign. But if you’re following
the live tweets, for instance, the reporters, I think everybody’s heard this speech a hundred times. You know, sources.
Oh, this is the standard stump speech. Nothing wrong with that. But, you know, I think the idea that they were going
to electrify the campaign was probably overwrought. And, you know, I mean, there there’s a reason why,
you know, they’re their candidates and Elizabeth Warren’s case, Massachusetts, Bernie Sanders case Vermont, who are appealing to very
liberal constituencies. They do a very good job there. But in terms of capturing the imagination, the nation
like Ted Kennedy in 1980 or Jesse Jackson in 84 or Mario Cuomo or even
Arnold Schwarzenegger a few years back, you know, the other thing I think they followed
Michelle Obama, who gave a very effective, very subtle speech on Monday night,
kind of contrasting, you know, her personal situation, using it to kind of talk
about the country of the difficulties of a of a negative climate.
And really, I think kind of skewering Trump in an indirect but extraordinarily effective way.
I think machine, you know, for me, there was Michelle Obama’s speech on Monday night and then everybody else.
Yeah. I mean, as somebody pointed out, Michelle Obama’s the first person to
speak at the RNC and the DNC in the same year. Well, I guess that’s good
because that indirect those like hot damn. I mean, it was it was it was basically
I mean, it was like an arc, a rap distract, except she didn’t name names. I mean. Right.
So I mean by subtle. Yeah. It was a subtle message. But we knew who she was talking about.
But you it was that and I think this has really been
the way I painted Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders as they would be great bureaucrats. They’d be great. You
put them in head of the head of a department or something like that or a game on a point, because they they’re really
into these certain policy areas. But they’re not going to get you excited. They’re not going
to have you ready to go out, you know, and do these things
because they’re there unless you’re really down for the cause. Yeah. It was already on the cause and really know about the issue. You’re
down for it. But they’re not going to they’re policy wonks. And,
you know, Elizabeth Warren was in it was was in law school, you know, so she
is is a policy wonk. She’s not necessarily there to encourage you
to get. And she’s there to encourage you. But she’s like, look, here’s what’s going on. Here’s what I want to do. But she’s
she’s not going to give you that great speech, Hoosiers or from Rocky, you know, or those classic
speeches you get from the football coach before, you know, your rag tag group goes up against the other team
in the state championship. All right. But, you know, she’s more about defensive coordinator
who’s like, stay right here on this play. Do not let the birth containment,
you know. So that’s really the big issue there. Now, moving on
from the DNC, we’ll talk more about the DNC next week as we see Hillary Clinton,
Clinton’s acceptance of the nomination. But also President Obama would have got with his farewell speech, along
with Harry Reid making his final appearance. And we’ll start with the importance of the fact that this is the first
time that a major party has nominated a woman for the presidency. So this is you
know, this is a is an historic event. But let’s actually talk about policy. And there’s
there’s still a lot of policy things going on in particular in regards to health care and health insurance
companies. So we have a clip to show you. And today, I’m announcing that the Department of Justice
is suing to block both Aetna’s acquisition of Humana and Anthem’s acquisition
of Cigna. And with Thursday’s announcement from Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the battle lines
are drawn to stop a massive consolidation in the health insurance sector. The DOJ moving
to block the two megadeals worth a combined 80 billion dollars on the grounds the nation’s
big five insurers would shrink to just three, threatening to push premiums
higher. Reuters Health and pharma correspondent Caroline Humor says even though the DOJ
denies it. There are some on Wall Street who think there’s a whiff of politics at work.
The White House and the Department of Health and Human Services that runs Obamacare
is very worried about competition in the health insurance market. They’re worried that prices are
going up for health care overall for drugs. They want to keep things down, but the insurance
companies aren’t taking this lying down. Aetna and Humana put out a pretty
strongly worded statement saying that they were going to fight this lawsuit. And we’re hearing the same thing from
Anthem and Cigna. So would you see going on here is this is an example
of regulation of where the U.S. government is stepping in to try to control business practices.
And the reason why you see the federal government stepping in here is because they think that the
merger of these companies will affect competition. And so where you have five major players and
the insurance market with these mergers, you’d end up with three. And what is also
important to this is that with these mergers, these companies get a largest share of the
patient population, which means they have a larger share. They have more negotiating powers and they meet
with doctors and hospitals to negotiate rates. And so the fear here
is that because they’ve gained so much power, they can lower rates in terms of lower
payments to hospitals and doctors while the same time increase in premiums. And so
this is kind of a fear of some type of collusion or monopoly to where
you don’t have good competition and like a lack of competition may actually end
up hurting customers. But also in terms of the ACA and the marketplaces that they want,
that they want to set up the marketplaces there for competition. But if you reduce the number of
competitors, it kind of hurts the amount of competition you have. And so this
is what’s what’s going on here. And this is kind of an important policy issue to talk about, because this is an example
of, you know, regulation of government regulation would talk about this more hours to get to
the economic policy module. But this is a prime example of the federal government
stepping in to kind of regulate business, specifically to protect so severely under
the argument that protecting consumers and trying to keep competition very strong.
Now, along with that, we have some other issues, policies they’ve come up with the past week, specifically dealing with Texas.
Yeah, we got a a voter I.D. decision came down. You all are probably aware a couple of years ago, the
Texas state legislature passed a requirement that voters in the state of Texas present a
photo I.D. in order to vote. And it was designed ostensibly to prevent
or to reduce the possibility for voter fraud. That case was immediately challenged. What
you need in Texas is pre-clearance, because Texas is still a suspect jurisdiction suspect’s
state under the Voting Rights Act. So Texas, when they make any change, the voting law has to be pre-cleared
by the Department of Justice. That pre-clearance was denied, which initiated a series of court cases
between Texas and the federal government. The 5th Circuit Court came out with a decision that
basically dinged ruled an acceptable Texas voter I.D.
law. We have a clip, I think, that talks about some of the details. A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday
that Texas has strict voter I.D. law, violates the Voting Rights Act and ordered changes
before the November election. The ruling from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructs the lower
court to make changes that fix the discriminatory effect of the 2011 law. But to do
so in a way that disrupts this year’s election season as little as possible. President
Barack Obama’s administration took the unusual step of deploying the weight of the U.S. Justice
Department into the case when it challenged the law, which requires Texas residents to show
one of seven forms of approved ID. The state and other supporters say the Texas
law prevents fraud. Opponents say it discriminates by requiring forms of I.D. that are
more difficult to obtain for low income African-American and Latino voters.
All right. So that’s a little bit about the voter I.D. decision. We’ve got a slide that actually shows under the Texas
state law the acceptable forms of voter I.D. If you’re going to vote on Election Day, you can see there’s seven different
forms, including a driver’s license, but also including passport, military concealed carry,
which you notice is not on the list, government I.D. or student I.D. I actually think sort of
a personal slash professional opinion. If Texas had included a government I.D.,
a student I.D. as part of the acceptable photo I.D., I think this thing might have stood a much better
chance of actually passing legal muster. But anyway, just
a couple of comments on this. Texas has a strict, perhaps the strictest voter I.D.
law. There’s a series of states that have passed voter I.D. laws over the last 10 years, including states like
Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Some of them
in the south, some of them north. And as a general matter what, what you’re finding is that the particular
claim the government has raised is something we called disparate impact, and that is that the law will disproportionately
affect at risk populations of one sort or another. So in the case of voter I.D., the argument
is the elderly who oftentimes don’t have a driver’s license anymore, not non-acceptable driver’s license, they have expired
or they don’t drive anymore racial ethnic minorities who are, according to all statistics, slightly
less likely than whites or Anglos to carry a driver’s license. Right. That if
that’s the case, if those groups are less likely to have that form of I.D., they might be less likely to have
one of these seven forms of acceptable I.D. Therefore, they’re more likely to not be able to
vote. Right. That’s that’s the argument the Department of Justice has raised. The other argument,
I think is more kind of tangential and that is but but relevant but sort of off the mark a little bit.
That is that that’s kind of a salute or a legislation in search of a problem.
That is there isn’t a lot of evidence from the political science literature that there is much voter fraud going on.
So what the court ruled is that, in fact, there is a disparate impact. The Texas
that what they asked the lower court to do is to go back and draw up an acceptable solution to this.
So the is kind of kicked back to the lower court. The law itself has been ruled invalid,
but it’s still in place. It’s going to be fixed presumably by November, because that’s what our next
election is by some kind of lower court remedy. And that’s what we’re waiting on right now. So voter
I.D. is kind of in limbo until the lower court chimes in on this. All right. We’ve got one additional
thing we want to talk about that today. The Democrats have talked about unity and talked about
policing. And, you know, I don’t know about you. I was watching the SPRO a couple weeks ago
and saw Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony, a LeBron James, talk about social
issues in a way that, you know, athletes sometimes don’t wear the perhaps the most prominent
athlete. Certainly my generation, Michael Jordan, has oftentimes been kind of criticized
for not being terribly socially active. Michael Jordan with the famous line Republicans
Buy Shoes, too, has been kind of quiet on these things. But Michael Jordan actually has
stepped up for one reason or another, said some things on some issues lately. So, Professor
McDaniel, you’re part of the Jordan generation, right? Yes. Jordan broke my heart. And many
nights I was a Knicks fan of the 90s. Ouch. Yeah. Yeah.
So between Jordan, Hakeem, OJ, I still blame OJ for the Knicks losing in 94.
Starks just couldn’t deal with a deal with the stress. So Michael Jordan, who
again and the reason why Michael Jordan caught a lot of flack for not standing out is in the
late 80s, early 90s, there was a Senate candidate Senate race in North Carolina between
black Democrat Harvey Gantt and white Republican incumbent Jesse Helms.
And there’s a lot of racial tension. And people’s asked for Michael Jordan to kind of look at you, do
something you because you carry a lot of weight in the state. His response as well, will Republicans buy shoes, too? And
it’s kind of it’s seen as like, OK, you don’t want to do anything, but you did see them. When Bill Bradley
ran in 2000, he came out in support of Bill Bradley. And there you see it
going on right now is he’s coming out in support of actions to improve
police community relations. And so he gave a million dollars to the NAACP
Legal Defense Fund. And again, if you move from Professor Shaw’s discussion earlier about various
ways of challenging for rights, the legal strategy, that’s where you see the NAACP
Defense Fund coming into play. So this is the legal strategy and action and supporting that.
But he also gave bonds to a group that was that is specifically focused on improving police
community relations. And so what you have going on here is a major
figure stepping in to support the legal strategy. And since up for
prodding help for legal remedies to what may be seen as police overreach,
but also giving money to an organization that that works with the police to improve these community organa
community relationships. And this has really been one of the big things that’s in really
many ways it’s been changed where it’s no longer an issue of black lives matter versus blue lives matter,
but police community relations. And I think this is the way of the wreckage seeing
out of President Obama’s trying to come try to be a little more centers, even though he clearly identifies with a lot
of red coming out of Black Lives Matter movement. He also is recognizing, you know, the needs of the police
and say we need to work on these relationships. And if you watch the town hall from
couple of weeks ago, it was about how do we improve these relationships and by improving these relationships?
We may be able to stop some of these things, some of these things happening that when the police do used force,
that the public does not automatically assume that there is misuse of force. But then also
you may see a decrease in use of force because the police have a better relationship with the community. These are all
various things and complicated things to deal with as we see
as we see these issues moving forward. So MJ finally chiming in million dollars
to those organizations. I mean, you know, seems like a lot of Miami may not be the Michael Jordan, but
I’m never going to criticize somebody for a million dollar donations. Also negative to me. Adel’s more than I negative.
That’s exactly right. So certainly that’s. That’s the tie. And if you wonder why we’re talking about Michael Jordan’s
Professor Goodell said it’s a really interesting sort of in the broader context of how
these issues, you know, things are changing. Right. There’s an expectation that athletes or celebrities can talk a lot
about. Celebrities today, right? Whether it’s Donald Trump or the major celebrity.
But Sarah Silverman. You know Al Franken in the Senate. You know, this sort of activism on the part of athletes
and then but the particular time that that sort of embrace of a legal strategy or the relevance, I guess, of the legal
strategy as some of these issues come to the fore, I think is really kind of interesting. Yeah. And so these
are, again, important things and make sure we tie this back into the class. We hope you’re enjoying this as
you go along. But that’s all we have for this week. Next week will wrap up with the DNC and talk about some
other issues that come about. Have a good week. Take care.
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