McDaniel and Henson take a look at the delegate counts in the 2016 presidential nomination races, then look at the campaigns’ efforts in New York. After talking about the Clintons’ relationship with African American voters — it’s complicated, to say the least — they check in on the state of play in filling the vacancy on the US Supreme Court and have a look at the politics of taxing feminine hygiene products.
Hosts
Eric McDanielAssociate Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin
Jim HensonDirector of the Texas Politics Project at the University of Texas at Austin
In the news.
Welcome to IN THE News are American and Texas government. I’m Eric McDaniel. And I’m Jim Henson. Well, we’re
back for another week. And again, we’re going to start off with the thing that’s the big buzz and that’s the primaries.
And so if you look at right now the delegate count, it’s clear that Donald Trump is in the lead.
However, Ted Cruz is catching up to him as Ted Cruz won several primaries and caucuses.
On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton has the lead. But again, Bernie Sanders is catching up to her by winning
several primaries and several caucuses. Now, it’s important to note is that these are in smaller states.
So while they keep talking about the, you know, winning four in a row, well, you’re winning for small
states in a row. I think Trump won American Samoa,
which really is in a lot of delegates. So it’s it’s problematic the way they talked about the number of states
won because the states are weighted differently. And so it’s important enough that in the bigger
states that Trump and Clinton are doing better.
However, that Wisconsin loss is kind of when the big states that Trump did lose.
But the next big thing on the on the agenda is New York. New York.
We’re not going to sing. No, no, no, no. The big next big primaries in New York. It’s a it’s a significant
delegate haul. And New York is is very distinctive for having very hardball
politics. And then this is history of people going to New York and essentially
pandering for delegates. And so we’ve seen a lot of that in
in the last couple of weeks. On the Republican side, if you look at the polling,
Donald Trump way ahead. It’s his, you know, basically home turf for Donald Trump.
And, you know, if we go back one of the very early podcasts we did or newscasts
we did, we were talking about Ted Cruz kind of ragging on
New Yorkers about New York values. It was it was a play for cultural conservatives
like we talked about. It is kind of the anti urban, anti cosmopolitan vote in the Republican Party.
But right now, Ted Cruz is in chickens coming home to roost mode. Yeah. So
he went to the Bronx where he met with some leaders in the area. I think he actually
went and made some or that makes him holler. Somebody forget what he did.
Maybe it made some Montse. So you went out? He did. You did the whole thing. Think he ate a Rubin drink? Some
Snapple, you know, the things New York is normally do. But he. But there is
one instance in the Bronx where people actually shout at him, shout out, try to shut him down
in a restaurant in the Bronx. So it is clear that, you know, this New York values thing didn’t
work. Now, he was in New York when he did it. But there has been some level of support for him
in western New York. So he’s in New York City when he did that. But there has been some support for where in
western New York, things like that. If you actually have time as a video on The Washington Post,
which says, if any, if each of the five candidates or one of the boroughs, which one would it be? Hillary
got Manhattan, of course, Bernie got Brooklyn. And I believe Cruz got Queens.
Well, yeah. You know, the thing about the Cruz play in New York, western New York, you know, for
for people that don’t live in New York, I haven’t been there. You think about New York as being all New York City
in the same way that was being originally from California. People think, you know, California’s
basically the strip along the beach, western New York, upstate New York, much more conservative.
And you know, the plane in parts of New York City with the hollow
the hollow bread is looking for the conservative, more orthodox Jewish vote. Cruz
has been, you know, very, very pro, is real and trying to be the most pro-Israel person,
you know, really in the race. And so there is a play for Cruz in New York.
But as we saw in those poll numbers, it’s really not getting them any anywhere. And it really does
look like New York is is Trump’s to lose. And really, the question is, as we
go back to what you’re talking about in the first segment, to some degree, how big can Trump win in New York
in terms of the delegate count right now? A lot of this is we’ve talked about before, is about
is about hunting for delegates, which is why Cruz’s win in Colorado
got a bit of criticism. They were really focused on on playing within
the rules of the system, but playing very hard to maximize their delegate count. That’s worked for
Cruz in these smaller states. But New York is going to be a rough ride. And as we said in the last podcast,
as we go through these mid Atlantic states, places like Pennsylvania,
those are going to be rough states for Cruz, where they’re going to try to run up the delegate count in the rural
and non urban areas. But it’s going to be it’s going to be a tough. It’s gonna be a tough ride
for them. Yeah. And the pandering didn’t stop on isn’t just on the Republican side. You also see
on the Democratic side. So we have a real quick video want to show you about Hillary Clinton,
her attempt to win over New Yorkers 20. The outer burrows now
at the center of the presidential race. Three of the candidates visited parts of the city today,
but were they trying to sample our way of life or just simply pandering to give his Tony
a yellow breaks down the appearances? I just
am thrilled to have the time this year. She’s no doubt sincere, but she’d no doubt
prefer to have things wrapped up by now. Instead, Hillary Clinton needs to win big in her adopted
home state. I’m going to trust the voters of New York who know me and have
voted for me three times. She took a simply ride in the Bronx, perhaps to chide Bernie Sanders,
who told the Daily News he thought riders still use tokens. But when Clinton went to swipe
her metro card, she had to swipe again and again and again.
It happens, but seemed like an awkward moment that may cost her some street cred. That’s
right. Street cred. Yeah, that’s very hip now. I mean, one thing that hit us about that is that’s a local
New York City newscast. The CBS affiliate from New York. So there’s all you know, there
is this kind of mix dynamic where New Yorkers go, oh, they’re pandering.
Give me some more of that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they complain about it, but, you know, they expect that if you don’t pander, then,
you know, you get hosed. Yeah. But also in terms of street cred. So forget guess Bernie Sanders
is still using tokens, which means Bernie Sanders hasn’t been on the sub. But on the subway a long time. But
also what’s important to note is that while everybody’s fighting tooth and nail to get a ticket to
see Hamilton, Bernie Sanders, the man of the people, was able to take his wife to see it. So
it’s interesting that people haven’t attacked him for going out to see a Broadway show that everybody’s going out for when he talks
about the special privileges of the rich. Yeah, I mean, there’s probably something a little aspirational there since the HAMIILTON
play on Broadway is such a is such a hard ticket. Yeah. You know, but if you look at the numbers we see, Clinton
is in is in the lead. You know, Sanders, you know, about 40 percent.
But again, it’s important to note that this is a very important state that Hillary Clinton should be able to wrap
this up soon, but it’s going to drag off for a long period of time. And one of things that happens is when you drag
campaign out, basically everything gets just dredged up. And
and what’s going on right now is Hillary Clinton is getting in. The Clinton campaign made a few missteps in regards
to young issues like you to African-Americans. And we’ve talked a lot in here about
how one of the big advantages that the Clinton campaign has had is that Bernie Sanders has not
done well with important constituencies in the in the Democratic Party, particularly
blacks and Latinos. And yet the Clinton campaign really dredged up
some some some bad blood between the Clintons and African-American voters.
That goes back really to Bill Clinton’s presidency to some degree, not not to mention the Obama campaign.
So let’s up let’s let’s roll some some sand and then we’ll work on that.
Martin, I don’t know how you would characterize the gang leaders
who got 13 year old kid hopped up on crack and sent to the street
to murder other African-American children. Maybe you thought they were good citizens.
She did.
Defending the people who called young people to go out and take guns, there was a 13
year old girl in Washington, D.C., who was planning her own body. How would you do?
That’s not true. Tell the truth. So
Bill got a little bit of a Southern preacher in. But this is our response to the 1984 crime
bill, which many people are linking to mass incarceration, specifically of African-Americans.
And this has been one of the one of the major issues. And, you know, Bill Clinton first, it should have
apologized and issued a full apology in terms of his response. And the problem he’s having here
is that the rhetoric he was using really goes back to the rhetoric that was used 20 years ago.
And Hillary Clinton was in trouble for when people brought up the rhetoric
that she knew. So in 1996, she made a statement there. Are we talking about the crime
bill, the need for the crime bill? They are often the kinds of kids that are that are called superpredators. So she’s
talking about children in this case. So no conscious, no empathy. We can talk about how they
ended up that way. But first we have to bring them to heel. And so the bring them to heel park the
superpredators and the bring them to heel parties where people really got upset because the idea
here is we have these used children. And by calling them super predators, you’re justifying Barry Haas
tactics in terms of dealing with them that bring them to heel, almost treats them, treats them
as if they’re animals. And so because of this, now, Hillary Clinton has apologized, should not abuse
that language. But the problem is, when she thought she got over, that Bill Clinton comes in
and basically use the same language again of like, you know, they are these these extremely violent people in your communities,
things of that nature further as a way to defend it. He said, you know, your black leaders, which.
Oh, yes, it was you people. And, oh, it been so much better. Not really.
But, you know, Lisa didn’t say you people, I guess is the good thing is that you’re black leaders support of this. But however,
there’s been a lot of talk about this. But yes, there were black leaders in support of
many black leaders did support harsher sentencing. But in addition to that, they wanted
jobs programs. They wanted reinvestment in these communities in order to have employment,
things of that nature. The problem is they get the harsh punishment, not the other part. And when Bill
Clinton other said we supported this like, no, no, we supported part of this. There’s another part that
we wanted that you didn’t hear about. And so there’s a piece in New York Times today which talks about selective hearing on
the part of the Clinton administration when it comes to this. And so one of the big pushes
here is that, yes, we wanted to do something about the crime, but then we want to do something to make sure to alleviate
these communities, things that things of that nature, specifically jobs. And again, as research is shown, when
jobs go away, crime goes up. When jobs come in, crime goes down. And so this
has been really one of the big, big problems they’ve had. So even after this,
Bill Clinton apologized, they found another way to step into it. And so we’ll run
this clip real quick. Sorry, Hillary. I was running on C.P.
Time. It’s not I don’t I don’t like jokes like that.
Cautious politician. All right. So as you see
here, this is a basic going back, a skip between Mayor Bill
de Blasio of New York City and Hillary Clinton. He has apologized for showing leyh says, I’m on C.P.
Time. Also referred to was Colored People Time, which is used as a reference for why people of color are not on time
or somewhat unprofessional. And the member of Hamilton, remember, the Hamilton
cast was blacks. And, you know, what is that? What are you talking about? I’m offended by that. Hillary Clinton has caused pilots cautious
politician time. Be truthful. It’s just a bad joke. At the end of
the day, it’s a bad joke. Everything all this is racist. This is a racially tinged. It was it was
basically a way to make a joke about to make a joke. And it just did
go try to. You know, it’s a failed attempt to be cool. And, you know, Bill de Blasio is not
going to have, you know, any future, I think, on stage. You know, his comic timing was
pretty off. I think to get away with that was going to have to be really perfectly delivered.
DB And grab a chance at it and not it didn’t work out that way.
You know, we’re talking about this and the Clintons, you know, kind of problems, recurring problems
and how they deal with the African-American bloc of voters in the Democratic Party. I’m wondering,
how much do you think Bill Clinton thought about and strategized that? Because for people that
have watched political history and and remember the Clinton campaign in the 90s,
there was immediate speculation by some people that, like, he knew exactly what he was doing and that
it was like a Sister Souljah moment all over again. And for people that don’t know about that, the Sister
Souljah movement, you know, she’s a rapper that made some inflammatory comments about
about the about shooting the police, shooting cops, I think in the early 90s
at a political event for Bill Clinton. And he immediately repudiated the comment. And it was widely
seen in the context of Bill Clinton being a centrist Democrat, taking the
opportunity to say in public that he wasn’t overly beholden
to black activists and took the black interest groups in the Democratic Party.
I I don’t think it was quite that strategic this time, but I don’t know. What do you
think? No, I think so. This is a soldier moment was was interest because he went out and
openly attacked. And again, her comments were on the heels of the L.A. riots. So it’s poor to put that in context.
So the idea of police brutality was important. You know, again, 24 years ago, as it is today,
today, I think it was he saw it as an attack on his legacy. I think what happened more recently, like, you
know, when they’re attacking her, they’re attacking him in attacking his legacy. But it also is lot people’s
stated. If there’s any guy who has to show publicly that he’s behind his wife, it’s Bill Clinton.
So any guy out there who owes his wife a lot. It’s Bill Clegg. So he
he made it. So part of it, he was they were attacking his legacy, but that he may be overzealous
in protecting his wife. All right. So elsewhere in the political system, it’s been a little while since
we checked in on the Supreme Court vacancy. We talked a bit about about Judge Scalia
passing. We talked about briefly. I think we at least mention that there was
a lot of political to and fro about the constitutionality and the politics of the constitutional rules
and whether President Obama should make an appointment or, you know, sort of make a nomination.
He nominated Merrick Garland, a well-known, well-respected, moderate
judge. I think we talked about how some senators had said in the past that they really
supported him, but now they don’t. But then now they they don’t. They want to wait
on this. The politics of that have kind of taken another turn. Yeah, it’s gotten real
because we actually had a few Republicans saying, no, we should. We should have the nomination. But they pulled
back. And so it’s looking like nothing may actually happen. Now, you can.
You can. I mean, the public is in support of going through with the nomination, but it’s like 60 40,
something like that. However, it looks like nothing’s going to be done, miss. This
could be problematic for the GOP in a general election. Not really clear. Could also be problematic for the senators
in their elections in the sense that people like, you know, Europe, you’re a living problem, are part
of the problem with Washington. You’ve seen Justice Roberts critique, critique this
behavior. And so you have this this interesting thing where clearly
they want to wait. Look, if we get our guy in, OK, we’re good. But the fear
is that if they don’t that, you know, Garland would have been the best that would have gotten.
Right. So the political play right now seems to be in the Senate that they’re going to wait.
So you do have some Republicans actually very quietly having meetings with Garland.
The White House is proceeding in a way that suggests that they just it’s just going to happen.
But what seems to be going on is that the Senate is going to wait. They’re going to
see if who wins the election. If Hillary Clinton wins on the assumption
that she would appoint somebody much more liberal and much more to the left than Garland based
on that. If it’s Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders, less likely. But the operative assumption
is it will be Hillary Clinton that she would appoint somebody not only more liberal, but also younger.
And so this person, you know, Garland is, I believe, in his mid 60s or early to mid 60s.
And so just, you know, it’s insensitive. But to be indelicate, you know, he can only be on the court
so long in all possibility where Hillary Clinton could do something like what
what Ronald Reagan did with Anthony Scalia, who was in his 40s.
I think when he was appointed to the court, he sat on there for a long time. So the play seems to be
frozen in play. See what happens in the election. If the Democrats win, the gala will probably get a hearing.
Yeah. Yeah. So it’s it’s all a bit of a politics game and people just
don’t like this. How overtly political this this is playing out. But
this is this is one big issue is kind of some of can be simmering for a while and will factor in
to the senatorial races as well as the presidential election.
But another issue I want to talk about is somebody who kind of been brewing for a while
regards to women’s rights issues. And so we have a video to highlight that five
women filed a class action lawsuit against a New York state law that creates a so-called tampon tax.
The lawsuit filed on March 3rd protest against a tax exemption that protects products such as Rogaine,
adult diapers and dandruff shampoo, but not tampons and sanitary napkins in New York.
Items are considered. Medical products such as Drogin and Lip Balm are exempt from sales tax, but
feminine hygiene products or not? One of the plaintiffs, Margo SEABURG, said, quote, Menstruation
products are essential and it is time to acknowledge that access should depend on who can afford them.
Campaigns in several other states have been lost to fight against tax that affect personal hygiene products
differently from men and women. President Obama weighed in on the issue, saying, quote, I have no
idea why states will tax these as luxury items. I suspect it’s because men were making the laws
when those taxes were passed. All right. So here’s a big thing now.
That’s that’s been brewing for so to a large degree with the idea that Rogaine is not taxed.
And that surely that’s a luxury item, which seems somewhat problematic. Look, considering I’m a person with very little
hair left and would benefit from Rogaine, I will understand that that is a luxury,
whereas feminine hygiene products are a necessity. So this has become a really big issue
regardless. So you see that a lot of states do this. And so this is really a been a big push to
move this over. So you see Minnesota, Pennsylvania,
Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland. Don’t don’t have a tax
for that. But again, the majority of states do tax this. So this has become a very big issue. Certainly
talking about women’s rights and the fact that women have to pay a tax for something that is necessary
for them to have. Yeah. I mean, it’s it’s it’s one of those issues that.
Gives you a kind of dramatic look at something that’s kind of mundane that, you know, in
the details of the tax code and in the very granular details of government
policy, you see political values and political positions invested in this. And
my suspicion is, is not going to go away. It’s going to it’s going to be something that we’re going to hear a lot more about going forward.
You’re seeing some protests on college campuses specifically. The argument is if you are for giving
away condoms or free shots beginning with feminine hygiene products. So that caused me to put feminine hygiene products in
bathrooms and certain multiple universes. I moved in that direction with the idea
being this is fairness. You know, this is a necessity for women. And so you should we
should help in that help in that regard. And I think, you know, the fact that Rogaine is not taxed
might be a sign of a gender bias in the creation of laws. And you’ll get as we’re talking
about gender equality, I just. Equal pay, but also equal equal match terms of spending is something
is gonna really come up to talk about the fact that women are overtaxed compared to men. There’s already been sumbitch shown
that women’s products are the women’s product with the same thing as a men’s product like razors.
All you do is you paint it pink and you charge a dollar more with argued areas. This clearly
is unfair, but this is one of the things that’s important. We’re talking about civil rights and
equality under the law that women are pointing out. Look, this is not an issue of issue
of equality. And again, as women, as women start pushing for more equality. But a lot of issues that many
people would not even think about are are coming forward. So we’re seeing the push on diapers for
being covered into welfare, things like that, because we’re we’re seeing more and more of the women’s that is more and
more of the issues that women face becoming being put to the forefront, which is a sign of movement towards equality
and the need to further advance equality. I would say two things. One
seems like a fair idea, too. I don’t think you ought to go to Rogaine. I like the look. Thank
you. Thank you. Well, I think my Barbara fought so freshly cut. That’s right. Shout out to Ronnie Jackson
on airport and Mainer got me looking good, Ronnie. But
that’s all we have for today. We hope you all have a good week. So long.
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